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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: Molly Atkin on Monday 18 February 08 21:11 GMT (UK)
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I've an ancestor in the 1841 census who's occupation appears to be something like ' Tape M S' or it could be M F or even M J. There are others with the same occupation but still others described as 'cotton M S' (or the above variants). I know that he went on to work in a silk mill but don't know if this occupation is related. Can anyone help?
The reference is HO 107/119/2 p11 (Congleton Cheshire).
Many thanks
Molly
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The reference is HO 107/119/2 p11 (Congleton Cheshire).
Many thanks
Molly
Hi Molly,
For an 1841 Census reference you need HO107, piece, book, folio, page
Stan
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Hi Molly,
I hope this can help someone decide ..
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5737/1841bt1.jpg)
Kindest regards,
Pels
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Hi Pels,
How did you manage to find that :) MS usually means Male Servant
Stan
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Hi Stan,
I'm hoping the person in question was named either John Bayley or Matthew McDonnell .. fingers crossed .. but I don't suppose it matters either way ..
Pels :)
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I wonder if it is
Tape M. J.
Tape
M. = maker
J. Journeyman?
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I wondered about the M standing for Maker .. but not sure about the Journeyman.
There did appear to be quite a cottage industry going on and even the female family members had the same occupation initials .. following the word Tape?
I wonder if Stan has come up with anything yet? :-\
Pels
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I wonder if it is 'f' for Tape Manufacture ??? At one time there were more than 20 working mills in and around Congleton, producing the silk ribbons and bows.
HO 107 piece 119 book 2 folio 10 page 14 will get a page showing same entries.
Stan
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I wonder if it is
Tape M. J.
Tape
M. = maker
J. Journeyman?
I'm with Cheshiremog :)
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The number of people employed in the 1841 census for Tape-manufacture (all branches) were males 20 yrs. and over 421, males under 20 yrs.149, females 20 yrs. and over 285, females under 20 yrs.141, a total of 996.
Stan
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Possibly Mule Scavenger or Mule Spinner?
Or if applied before he worked in the factories - maker of smallwear?
Su
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HO 107 piece 119 book 2 folio 10 page 14 will get a page showing same entries.
But on this page, the same character seems to appear after the occupation 'taylor' (William Wright aged 18). Presumably this would be interpreted as 'Journeyman'?
On folio 12 page 9 it appears again after the occupation of 'joiner' (John & Ralph Eaton), which again I think we would interpret as 'Journeyman'. A few lines above it appears after the occupation 'cotton spinner'.
On this basis, I agree with Cheshiremog and Tati that its Tape Maker/manufacturer Journeyman.
Jennifer
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A big thank you to all those who offered suggestions to my question (I've only just picked up this up so apologies for not saying thanks before). I think tape making is a distinct possibility - I hadn't made the connection between tapes and ribbons.
Many thanks again
Molly