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Title: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Monday 18 February 08 15:45 GMT (UK)
hi

Im trying to find information regarding St Francis church where my grandmother married her first husband 31/12/1896
any information would be great.

Winniep :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: sancti on Monday 18 February 08 15:55 GMT (UK)
http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/gorbals/stfranc2.html

http://glasgow-southsiders.co.uk/2006/11/st-francis-centre-in-turmoil/

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSA05147
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Monday 18 February 08 16:33 GMT (UK)
thanks will search these sites tonight

winniep :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: RJ_Paton on Tuesday 19 February 08 19:20 GMT (UK)
The building is still standing ... I was looking at it today and speaking to someone who lives nearby. Although it has been converted into a civic centre the original church fittings including an altar are still in place and a shell covers them for the buildings current use.
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Wednesday 20 February 08 11:20 GMT (UK)
thanks for the information. Do you know if  hallside street is still there and the other address I had was South Wellington
Street I am actually working between two familes at the moment so I am grateful for your information

regards

winniep :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: liverpool annie on Wednesday 20 February 08 11:29 GMT (UK)


Hi Winnie !

Heres a couple of threads about St Francis ! .... thought they maybe of interest !

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,264979.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,269081.0.html

Annie  :)


Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Wednesday 20 February 08 11:44 GMT (UK)
hi Annie

thanks for the links as I said Im doing two familes at the moment and the information regarding the church are much apprecicated I am doing this from work at the moment when I get home tonight I will have a better chance to check it out

winnie  :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: Isles on Wednesday 20 February 08 12:16 GMT (UK)
thanks for the information. Do you know if  hallside street is still there and the other address I had was South Wellington
Street



Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: Isles on Wednesday 20 February 08 12:23 GMT (UK)
South Wellington Street was renamed Lawmoor Street.
According to a letter in the Scotland on Film forum there was a Hallside Street in Glasgow.  "I like to think that the time I had in the Gorbals was the best I had.  I stayed in Hallside Street until 1956.  We then had to move out to Drumchapel".
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Wednesday 20 February 08 12:59 GMT (UK)
Hi there

my grandmother lived there and I take it she got married from there in 1896  her first husband died and she remarried and I take it she then moved to clydebank. This is amazing in the last few days I have found out more about the second family I am researching than the first family in a year thank you once again

winniep
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 20 February 08 19:51 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately Hallside Street no longer exists .... according to the 1927 directory it ran off of Naburn Street which in turn ran off of Cumberland Street.

Lawmoor Street (the former South Wellington Street) can be seen at The Virtual Mitchell Library (http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/index.php?a=wordsearch&s=gallery&key=Wczo3OiJsYXdtb29yIjs=&pg=1)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 20 February 08 20:00 GMT (UK)
The National Library of Scotland has a town plan of Glasgow of 1895 which shows hallside street running between Naburn Street and Camden Street and parallel to Caledonia Road ... literally a few minutes walk from St Francis'.

http://www.nls.uk/maps/townplans/glasgow_2_southcentre.html
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Thursday 21 February 08 12:48 GMT (UK)
thanks for the information I am off this weekend so I will start putting it in order and see how far I can get I am slowly getting to find different things about the family

once again thanks

winniep  :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: boop on Friday 07 March 08 22:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Winniep
I just wondered what the name of the family you are researching is as I too had family in South Wellington St. (later Lawmoor St.) and Hallside St. around that time and I also had someone who was married in St. Francis's. My great-grandfather and his wife had a daughter Catherine who died in 1893 and at the time they were living at 28 Hallside St. Catherine died aged 2years and 10 months from burns to her body and leg. My grandfather lived at 178 South Wellington St. in 1919 and before that my grandfather lived with his family at 430 South Wellington St. I also have family living in Kidston St. as well which is in the same area.
Boop
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Saturday 08 March 08 10:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Boop

thanks for your reply the families I am looking for are James Ramsay (father Thomas cant make the mothers name out)
they lived at 315 south wellington street, My Grandmother Catherine Carroll lived at 10 Hallside street. James Ramsay was her first husband she later married my grandfather McKinlay and the lived in the Clydebank area. Any ideas

Winniep :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: boop on Saturday 08 March 08 10:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Winniep
If you let me know what you are looking for, the next time I go to the records office in Edinburgh (hopefully within the next couple of months) I will see what I can find out for you. You can either post the details here or send me a personal message.
Boop
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: davieboy on Sunday 09 March 08 18:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Boop

thanks for your reply the families I am looking for are James Ramsay (father Thomas cant make the mothers name out)
they lived at 315 south wellington street, My Grandmother Catherine Carroll lived at 10 Hallside street. James Ramsay was her first husband she later married my grandfather McKinlay and the lived in the Clydebank area. Any ideas

Winniep :)


Winnie can you give me any more information on your "Ramsays". I have a James Ramsay, father Thomas Ramsay, mother Mary Rennie Isdale.
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: winniep on Monday 10 March 08 09:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Davieboy

the only information I have is that his father was thomas and his mother the Elizabeth ? cant make out the second name
thats about as far as I have got. I dont know if he had any
brothers or sisters or when they lived in glasgow I have checked the 1901 census and cant find anything
hope this information helps

winniep  :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: pancho on Monday 10 March 08 11:11 GMT (UK)
Beautiful Church it was I was christened there in 1962 but now its some kind of walk in centre and i beleive St Francis was amalgamated into another local parish.
My Mum and dad and right back to my great grandad were married there and its sad to see it no longer in use :(
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 10 March 08 13:21 GMT (UK)
Beautiful Church it was I was christened there in 1962 but now its some kind of walk in centre and i beleive St Francis was amalgamated into another local parish.
My Mum and dad and right back to my great grandad were married there and its sad to see it no longer in use :(

The original church is still intact - I was talking to a family last week who live opposite it - the walk in community centre has constructed a shell in the interior which protects the original interior although it does hide it away.

Although a matter of opinion it's probably better in its current form than sold off to developers for conversion to flats as has happened to so many other churches. (or demolished completely as happens only too often)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: pancho on Monday 10 March 08 20:03 GMT (UK)
My auntie still lives in Cumberland Place across the road and she goes to the new church too maybe it was her you spoke to lol.
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: x-beee-x on Tuesday 10 June 08 00:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for information which is a bit more recent than i've seen discussed but I was just wondering if anyone could help or had any information about how I could source a picture of my gran she was the may queen for st francis in 1936 or 1937 there was a picture published in a paper at the time which she would like a copy of but so far i've had no luck any help would be appreciated

xx
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: pancho on Tuesday 10 June 08 10:10 BST (UK)
possibly The Catholic Observer as there was a photo of my brother when he was in St francis Pipe Band but that was the 60s but just a suggestion Good Luck i hope you find what youre looking for
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: x-beee-x on Friday 13 June 08 19:08 BST (UK)
thanks for the help it's appreciated :)

xx
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: rosdoc on Saturday 08 August 09 11:39 BST (UK)
Hello. my name is Ros and I have just joined roots chat. I saw your message of last year about looking for a photo of your Gran. I saw the reply about the Catholic Herald did you get one. There are two newspapers in Glasgow that may have also have published the picture.

Glasgow Evening Times or the Bulletin. The Evening times is still going strong but the bulletin disappeared many years ago. however archives for both are held at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. You would have to go and look at them personally though  or if you live abroad and want to get in touch please fell free to do so.

my mother-in-law was a member of St Francis all her life. She will most likely have known your Gran as also might my husband and his family.
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: x-beee-x on Sunday 09 August 09 18:28 BST (UK)
Thanks for getting back to me, I think my mum looked through those archives at the mitchell although i'm not sure how far through she got before she started feeling sick with all the rolling pages haha
My grans name was Greta although I'm not sure how long she went to St Francis for, I'll keep hunting any info is helpful Thanks :)
Title: Re: st Francis church Cumberland st Glasgow 1890
Post by: janda2050 on Sunday 03 January 10 22:08 GMT (UK)
Hi to all the folk who are looking for the St Francis information

The church records are now held in John Bosco Church in Ballater Street, Glasgow but you should contact the Archdiocese in St Andrews Cathedral in Glasgow on the Clydeside - they should be able to confirm where you will find the records you are looking for.

They have an archive department and might even have the St Francis records there.  As far as I know you can visit the department but need to make an appointment.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Title: Hallside street
Post by: welcome12 on Friday 19 August 11 19:22 BST (UK)
Would like to talk to the person who was asking about hallside st,I was born there in 1946.
Title: Re: Hallside street
Post by: johnsankus on Sunday 25 September 11 16:21 BST (UK)
Would like to talk to the person who was asking about hallside st,I was born there in 1946.
All fascinating stuff this - like others, there are several generations of my family who were married in St Francis, living in Hallside Street, South Wellington Street, and other places nearby. Next time I get up hom I'll have to take a trip over to see it.