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Title: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Aulus on Sunday 17 February 08 13:36 GMT (UK)
This particular family in my Collis tree are a little  marginal (more of a twig than a branch), so it's hardly vital to my research, but it's annoying that I can't find them, so I thought maybe some of you kind folk might like a challenge.  I have them on the 1841 census and the 1871 census, but can't find them in 1851, 1861, 1881 or later.

Here's what I know:

John Collis born 1824 (according to the 1871 [RG10/289; Folio: 11; p. 15]) Standon, Hertfordshire.  On the 1841 census (HO107/434; Folio: 38; Page: 18) he still in Standon, Herts and is an Ag Lab.  He dies Q1 1878

Eliza Clark born 1828, Standon, Herts, and bapt there 24 Aug 1828.  On the 1841 census she is resident at Wade's Mill, Standon, Herts. (Class: HO107/434; Folio: 36; Page: 14).  She dies Q1 1880.

On 20 June 1852 he marries Eliza Clark at St Leonard's in Shoreditch.  Married after banns, witnessed by William Clark & Eliza Buck.  He's a labourer, resident in Rose Street, Shoreditch.  She's a servant, also resident in Rose Street, Shoreditch.

Their children (known mainly from the 1871 census cited above; resident 20 Marton Road, Islington) were:

+David Collis, b. c. 1856 Shoreditch.  If he is the David Redan Collis born Q4 1855 Shoreditch, then he's on the 1881 and 1891 census in Islington, married to a Caroline Eliza.  Marriage is Q2 1879 Islington, 1b, p. 531 - to a Caroline Eliza Collis (sic).  I think I'm going to have to send for the two certificates to check that.  I have a Caroline Eliza Collis on my tree (closer than David too), so it's not money entirely down the pan.

+John Collis, b. c. 1860 Shoreditch
+William Collis, b. c. 1860 Shoreditch
+George Collis, b. c. 1862 Islington
+Henry James Collis, b. December 1864 Islington, died 10 Aug 1936 Hackney

As I say, they're fairly distant to me, so this is really just curiosity.
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: dillybert on Monday 18 February 08 14:02 GMT (UK)
Eliza in 1851:

HO107; Piece: 1537; Folio: 451; Page: 29
St Leonard's, Shoreditch
27 Phillips Street
John Barsby, Mar, 27, Head, Carpenter & Joiner, b Rutland Oakham
Sarah Barsby, Mar, 30, b Herts, Standon
Mary, 3, b Bethnal Green
William, 2, b Bethnal Green
Thomas, 9months, b Shoreditch
Frances, Father, Widr, 56, b Rutland Oakham
Eliza Clarke, Unm, Visitor, 22, Servant out of place, b Standon Herts
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Aulus on Monday 18 February 08 16:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks Dillybert.

I suspect Sarah Barsby is Eliza's sister.

Edit: She is (i.e. they are sisters)

Sarah Clark marries John Barsby 9 Aug 1846, Shoreditch parish church.
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 18 February 08 22:12 GMT (UK)
Hi, John married Sarah Clark Sept qtr 1846 Shoreditch.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 18 February 08 22:41 GMT (UK)
Hi 1901 census RG13/191/58     20 Morton Road Islington

David R Collis 45 Gas & Water Eng. Porter born Haggerston
Caroline 44 Shoreditch
David R 21 Fitter Gymnastic Apparatus
Alice 17
Lucy E 9    All children born Islington


Jennifer
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Aulus on Friday 17 April 09 17:59 BST (UK)
Just thought I'd bump this in case anyone else fancies having a look for:

- John on the 1851 census
- John & Eliza (presumably with the first two children - John & William) on the 1861 census

thanks  :)
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: flashsteve on Friday 15 April 11 13:24 BST (UK)
Hi, your twig may well be a branch to me. My great great grandfather is Daniel Collis (think he is John's brother?). He married Eliza Mason, born Standon Herts 1831, in Shoreditch 1855.

Any help you could give would be much appreciated. Steve
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Aulus on Sunday 17 April 11 01:49 BST (UK)
Steve,

Daniel Collis & Eliza Mason are my great x3 grandparents, which makes us 2nd cousins once removed.

I've sent a private message with contact details so we can pursue this without troubling the good folks of rootschat.

Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Tsu on Tuesday 19 April 11 12:05 BST (UK)
There used to be a fishmongers on Bethnal Green Road in the 60's called Collis's.
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Aulus on Tuesday 19 April 11 12:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Tsu.

I think I have come across some fishmonger Collis cousins, but can't remember who they were, and unfortunately I've not found an easy way of finding people by occupation on the Family Historian software I use.

Another branch were greengrocers and I had a slightly bizarre experience the other day: I was driving through the vale of Evesham and thought to myself "oo, it's asparagus season, must look for a farm or roadside stall selling some".

I screeched to a halt outside the first roadside shed I saw, bought some (delicious!) asparagus, but it was only as I drove away that I looked back at the sign over the shed: R Collis & Son!!!
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: flashsteve on Tuesday 19 April 11 21:32 BST (UK)
My father had a greengrocers in north london in the sixties.
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Loobielu on Sunday 20 October 19 20:36 BST (UK)
This particular family in my Collis tree are a little  marginal (more of a twig than a branch), so it's hardly vital to my research, but it's annoying that I can't find them, so I thought maybe some of you kind folk might like a challenge.  I have them on the 1841 census and the 1871 census, but can't find them in 1851, 1861, 1881 or later.

Here's what I know:

John Collis born 1824 (according to the 1871 [RG10/289; Folio: 11; p. 15]) Standon, Hertfordshire.  On the 1841 census (HO107/434; Folio: 38; Page: 18) he still in Standon, Herts and is an Ag Lab.  He dies Q1 1878

Eliza Clark born 1828, Standon, Herts, and bapt there 24 Aug 1828.  On the 1841 census she is resident at Wade's Mill, Standon, Herts. (Class: HO107/434; Folio: 36; Page: 14).  She dies Q1 1880.

On 20 June 1852 he marries Eliza Clark at St Leonard's in Shoreditch.  Married after banns, witnessed by William Clark & Eliza Buck.  He's a labourer, resident in Rose Street, Shoreditch.  She's a servant, also resident in Rose Street, Shoreditch.

Their children (known mainly from the 1871 census cited above; resident 20 Marton Road, Islington) were:

+David Collis, b. c. 1856 Shoreditch.  If he is the David Redan Collis born Q4 1855 Shoreditch, then he's on the 1881 and 1891 census in Islington, married to a Caroline Eliza.  Marriage is Q2 1879 Islington, 1b, p. 531 - to a Caroline Eliza Collis (sic).  I think I'm going to have to send for the two certificates to check that.  I have a Caroline Eliza Collis on my tree (closer than David too), so it's not money entirely down the pan.

+John Collis, b. c. 1860 Shoreditch
+William Collis, b. c. 1860 Shoreditch
+George Collis, b. c. 1862 Islington
+Henry James Collis, b. December 1864 Islington, died 10 Aug 1936 Hackney

As I say, they're fairly distant to me, so this is really just curiosity.
Hi there,
I'm new to Rootschat but this Collis thread caught my eye. Henry James Collis; b:1864 - 1936 (my great grandfather) was the younger brother of David R Collis. Any info/photo's would be much appreciated as I have little to go on. Henry eventually married Mary Elizabeth Perridge. I understand that this thread has been inactive for some time but....fingers crossed!!! Cheers x
Title: Re: Disappearing Collis family - a challenge
Post by: Chalky44 on Monday 27 January 20 14:54 GMT (UK)
Hi
        My paternal grandfather was a collis, Sadly I never got to meet the man but I have A lot of collis on my family tree, My Paternal grandfather was John G Collis 1919 to 1979