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Title: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: Debmc on Thursday 14 February 08 14:03 GMT (UK)
I am looking for info on Thomas Dorricott @1836, his wife was Emma Durnal 1838-1876, they had a son John Dorricott 1866- married to Harriet Attwood 1872-1954. I hve been unable to find birth or death records for Thomas or a death entry for his son John.
Does anyone have any info or ideas where I may find any missing information.
Many thanks
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: Mum44 on Thursday 14 February 08 14:19 GMT (UK)


Hello Deb  -  welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Here's a starter for you - the family in 1871:

RG10.  P. 2754  Fol 51  Pg. 12

Dorrington
Thomas   Head  M  30  Stone Miner    B. Salop Shrewsbury
Emma  Wife  M  29
Edward  Son  12  Labourer in Brickyard
Sarah A  Dau  9
John  Son  4
Charles  Son  1

Living Foxholes, Madeley,  Wife and all children born Ironbridge.
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 February 08 14:26 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

As Thomas was born before Civil Registration was introduced
any birth/baptismal records would be on either the IGI at www.familysearch.org or in local parish records

The 1861 census shows him b Madeley 1836 but there is no IGI entry for his birth.  Emma was also b Madeley

In 1861 they had a son Edward aged 3 so I think this may be Thomas with his parents on the 1851 census for Madeley transcribed as Dorrcott

All b Shropshire - children b Brace Meole (Meols?) except George

Corfield Row Madeley

Edward Dorricott 48  bricklayer b Condover
Ann  47  b Sherif Hales
Edward  18  
Elizabeth  14  
Charles  5  
Henry  11  
Jane Dorrcott 7  
Samuel  10  
Thomas  13  
George  2  b Madeley Wood

Thomas Haynes 27  lodger
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: Debmc on Thursday 14 February 08 17:17 GMT (UK)
Thankyou both for the welcome and replies, I do have the census returns for Thomas and Emma back to 1861, but could find nothing prior to that or anything to indicate the names of Thomas's parents, hadn't thought of trying a different spelling  ???
Will now try the 1851 and hope for some luck there, so frustrating as it is the most important route and seem to be getting nowhere concrete past Thomas and Emma at the moment, can't even find death for him although I did find a birth at the records office in London.
Thanks again for your replies  :)
Deb
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 February 08 17:20 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have already given you the 1851 details in my reply (just to save you searching) You may have "done a typo" and meant 1841


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although I did find a birth at the records office in London

Who were his parents
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 February 08 17:24 GMT (UK)
Re: 1841 - have a look at the entry under Thomas DORRICOURT in Shropshire birthyear 1836
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 February 08 17:30 GMT (UK)
A copy of his marriage cert will confirm his fathers name

Thomas Dorricott / Emma Durnall September qtr 1856  Madeley
Volume: 6a  Page: 960
   
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: Debmc on Thursday 14 February 08 18:45 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have already given you the 1851 details in my reply (just to save you searching) You may have "done a typo" and meant 1841


Quote
although I did find a birth at the records office in London

Who were his parents

Oh sorry about that, I am confusing myself now! the birth record I found was for John Dorricott 1866, nothing at all for Thomas  :(
Thanks

Deb
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 February 08 18:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Deb

Take a deep breath and read on:

You want to trace Thomas Dorricott's ancestry - he was the father of John b 1866.  Because he was born before 1837, we have to rely on census entries to track his parents

You know that Thomas married Emma Durnall so I have given the reference for their marriage above

A copy of their marriage certificate will show the name of Thomas's father and also his occupation

If his father was Edward - then the census info I have given above is correct and you have his parents

If it isn't - we go back to the drawing board with the new info
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: Debmc on Thursday 14 February 08 19:03 GMT (UK)
Thankyou, obviously I need to sort my thinking out!  I already had the marriage reference for Thomas and Emma but hadn't thought to order the certificate so thanks for the pointer there!

You can tell I am new to this  :D

Thanks so much for your help, I am going to order the certificate now and will post with what I hope is good news when it replies.

Deb
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 February 08 19:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Deb

Keeping my fingers crossed and assuming his dad will be Edward - I found this marriage on the IGI at www.familysearch.org

EDWARD. DORRICOTT   Spouse:  ANN CROWTHER   
Marriage:  18 JUL 1831   Saint Julian, Shrewsbury 
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: Debmc on Thursday 14 February 08 19:13 GMT (UK)
OHHHHHH thanks again, you have got me more information today than I have gathered in weeks!!!

Deb
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: liverpool annie on Thursday 14 February 08 19:18 GMT (UK)


I wonder if this John is part of your family too !! ( maybe somebody to keep on the back burner !! )

John DORRYCOTT   
   
Birth 17 DEC 1833     
Christening 12 JAN 1834     Saint Julian Shrewsbury Shropshire
Death 06 JUN 1834     
   
Father -    Edward DORRYCOTT   
Mother -     Mary    
   
Annie  :)
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 February 08 19:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Annie

There is an 1833 marriage on the IGI for Edward Dorricott to Mary Owen so I think John belonged to them
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: liverpool annie on Thursday 14 February 08 19:24 GMT (UK)


You know me Carole I just like to throw things in the mix !  ;) I didn't check for marriages !!

I saw the spelling and thought maybe they were related !!

Annie  :)
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: pete edwards on Thursday 14 February 08 19:44 GMT (UK)
All the Dorricotts ext/sp in the Diocese youre looking in

Barley Parish Registers.

 12 Jul 1799 Jesse Dorricott.
 30 Aug 1811 Susannah Dorricott.

Shropshire: Condover - Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese

 13 Mar 1808 Mary, d. of John & Eliz. Dorricott.
 04 Nov 1810 Thos., s. of John & Eliz. Dorricott.
 19 Apr 1812 Eliz. Dorricott (age 73).

The Parish Register of Wrockwardine.

 05 Jan 1802 John Dorricott, aged 3 bur.

Shropshire: Shrewsbury - St. Mary Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese

 17 May 1795 Anne, d. of Richard Dorricott & Anne, bap.
 22 Dec 1807 Thos. Davies & Jane Doricott. Wit: Richd. & Ann Dorricott.
 15 May 1810 Edw. Watkins & Sarah Dorricott. Wit: Charles Botts.

Shropshire: Shrewsbury - St. Chad Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese

 25 Jun 1779 Dorricott, Cathne:, d. of Thomas & Sarah. Born  08 May 1779  chr.
 19 Dec 1779 Dorricott, Richd:, s. of Thomas & Margt: Born  02 Dec 1779  chr.
 06 Feb 1780 Dorricott, Cathe:, d. of Thos: & Sarah bur.

The spelling variants are a nightmare :( :( :(

Pete :) :) :)

Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: peterjd on Thursday 21 February 08 21:31 GMT (UK)
i think you find this is thomas in 1881 but census has born barton hill and he remarried

Thomas DORRICOTT   Head       43   Barton Hill   Stone Miner     
 Mary A. DORRICOTT   Wife        42   Madeley, Shropshire, England       
 Edward J. DORRICOTT   Son      22   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England       
 Sarah A. DORRICOTT   Daur       18   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England       
 John DORRICOTT   Son               13   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England       
 Charles DORRICOTT   Son           11   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England       
 Thomas DORRICOTT   Son           9   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England       
 Zillah HARRISON   Daug   U         18   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England     
 William C. HARRISON   Son         16   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England   
 Martha A. HARRISON   Daug       11   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England       
 John R. HARRISON   Son              8   Madeley Wood, Shropshire, England     
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: peterjd on Thursday 21 February 08 21:50 GMT (UK)
if thomas was 13 in 1851 it would make him born after april 1837 as he would be 14 on census if born before april as record dont start until sept qrt 1837 if he not on the record he was proberly born between april 1837 to june, i think i got it right but you will tell me if i worked it out wrong ?
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: Debmc on Sunday 16 March 08 16:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Deb

Keeping my fingers crossed and assuming his dad will be Edward - I found this marriage on the IGI at www.familysearch.org

EDWARD. DORRICOTT   Spouse:  ANN CROWTHER   
Marriage:  18 JUL 1831   Saint Julian, Shrewsbury 


Hi, have at last got the marriage cert for Thomas and Emma, and yep, you were right, His father is Edward :) thank you all so much for your help, Thomas's age on the cert points to him being born in 1836, so the search is on !!
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: madeley on Tuesday 29 December 09 18:52 GMT (UK)
There are still dorricotts in broseley now i believe they are ancestors of the dorricotts from the foxholes the location of the foxholes is just up the hill from ironbridge it was just a row of derelict houses when i was a kid.
Title: Re: Dorricott Ironbridge
Post by: peterjd on Monday 26 March 12 21:39 BST (UK)
there a dorricott on the cenotaph at ironbridge if he anyones relie i have a photo will send you a copy