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Title: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: belmichael64 on Monday 11 February 08 12:21 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have just started to trace my relatives and appear to be stuck already.  My 3x g grandfather Andrew Flockhart (b1812 in Auchterarder) married Jane Scobie - I cannot find a birth date for Jane or a marriage date.  They had a daughter Jane (b1846 Auchterarder) and according to the 1951 census they also had 2 other daughters.  However I cannot read the census very clearly and cannot make out their names I think one may be Isabella. I have looked at the scotlands people website and cannot find birth information for these two daughters or death dates for Jane scobie or Andrew Flockhart.

Any help would be gratefully recieved!! ???
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: Raylen on Monday 11 February 08 12:31 GMT (UK)
This is probably no help at all but ancestry has
transcibed the daughters as

Jane b 1843  ???
Jane b 1847  
Isabella b 1849
All born Auchterarder, Perthshire


Raylen
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: belmichael64 on Monday 11 February 08 12:55 GMT (UK)
 :)

Thanks Raylen.  I had not actually looked at Ancestry for these, I have only used scotlandspeople.  Surely that's not normal to have two daughters with the same name? It is actually very difficult to read the census though.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: welsh lady on Tuesday 12 February 08 10:56 GMT (UK)
Head of the 1851 census is William Flockhart .Andrews Father all the children the two Janes and Isabella are down as Grandchildren.I think possibly  two are Andrews children Jane and Isabella and the other older  Jane is possibly the daughter of Andrews sister Elizabeth whos also living there.As in the 1861 census only Children living with Andrew are Jane age 14 and Isabella age 12 also his sister and mother living with him.The other Jane age 18 is in service.That would make more sense i think

Welsh Lady
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: welsh lady on Tuesday 12 February 08 11:10 GMT (UK)
You might already have this but just in case

Igi extracted entries

Andrew Flockhart
Birth-04 Nov 1811
Christ-10 Nov 1811 Auchterarder,Perth
Father-William Flockhart
Mother-Jean Headridge

Possible for Andrews  Father age and place correct from census
William Flockhart
Christ-24th Jan 1772 Dunning,Perth
Father-Andrew Flockhart
Mother-Elisabeth Anderson

Welsh Lady
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: welsh lady on Tuesday 12 February 08 11:22 GMT (UK)
IGI Extracted entry
Marriage

Andrew Flockhart to Jane Scobie
01st Dec 1843
Auchterarder,Perth

Welsh Lady
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: welsh lady on Tuesday 12 February 08 11:53 GMT (UK)
Heres the 1881 census
Colonsay House,Auchterarder,Perth

Andrew Flockhart,Head,Widow,69,Woollen Weaver,Auchterarder
Jane Michael.Dau,Widow,34,Auchterarder
Thomas Michael,Grandson,13,Stirling
Jane Michael,Granddaughter,11,Stirling
Andrew John Michael,Grandson,8,Auchterarder

This Marriage Extracted entry from IGI again fits with above info.

Jane Flockhart to John Michael on 21st June 1867 Auchterarder,Perth

Welsh Lady
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: belmichael64 on Tuesday 12 February 08 12:13 GMT (UK)
 ;D

Thank you so much  Welsh Lady, thats fantastic! I have been trying to find this information for ages with no luck.

Thanks again! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: Easdale on Saturday 08 November 08 19:03 GMT (UK)
Hi
I am also working on Michael side of my wifes family on and off for past 3 years, she is also related to Jane Flockhart and John Michael  through their son Andrew John Michael, The Michaels come from Kirkhill Inverness Where Jane Flockhart worked as a domestic servant in Moniack Castle prior to them being married. John's parents were Donald Michael and Mary MacDonald. It gets a bit Fuzzy after this.
Hope this helps
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: belmichael64 on Saturday 08 November 08 20:41 GMT (UK)
Hi

how exciting to hear from you! I am also related to Jane Flockhart and John Michael through Andrew John Michael. Andrew John's son John Michael was my grandfather. I have done quite a bit of research on the Michael family and I had linked them to Kirkhill but i had no idea about Jane working at Moniak Castle. If you would like me to send you the information that I have collected so far to see if it matches up with your research let me know and I can email you what I have collected so far.

Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: Easdale on Monday 10 November 08 12:16 GMT (UK)
Hi

Good to hear from you

If you could send me your email address I'll send the information I have however it may take a few days due to work commitments.


Thanks
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: maddcore on Monday 28 February 11 03:30 GMT (UK)
Hi belmichael64,

I have just started investigating my family tree, and noticed that the Andrew Flockhart and Jane Scobie, are also part of my ancestory. Isabella ( daughter of the above) married My GG Grandfather, David Dunbar, 14/07/1869.

Now I believe they had only 1 child ( John 1869- 1933 ) who married Elsie Victoria Lawrence. They had 2 children ( I believe) , Robert and Duncan ( Duncan is my Grandgfather).

I would love to hear more from you. My e-mail address is, (*)

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Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: belmichael64 on Monday 28 February 11 21:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Maddcore

Good to hear from you!  ;D

I have indeed got Isabella and David Dunbar in my tree and also their son John. I believe Isabella married again to a John Wishart in 1878 in Edinburgh. If you would be interested i can send you a copy of the information that i have to date. (The moderator has sent me your email address) Let me know if this would be of any interest to you !! 

Bel  ;D
Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: maddcore on Monday 28 February 11 22:53 GMT (UK)
Hi belmichael164,

I'm glad your still monitoring. I noticed you last post on this was in 2008, so I thought I had missed an opportunity.

Isabella may have remarried, as I believe my GG Grandfather passed away later that year ( reason unknown to me ).

If you do have any information, I would certainly appreciate the assistance!!

Title: Re: Flockhart of Auchterarder
Post by: Jessies Mum on Monday 21 January 13 03:41 GMT (UK)
Not sure if anyone is still currently active on here or not, but would love to make contact with either belmichael164 or maddcore as likewise, I am researching on behalf of current Dunbar family members of New Zealand and would love to share information.  Look forward to hearing from you!