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Title: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Old Jack on Thursday 07 February 08 17:35 GMT (UK)

Hello - I am searching for information about the above man.
In particular I am hoping to find a photograph of him
to add to our village archive.
Thank you

Old Jack
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 07 February 08 18:35 GMT (UK)
Here's a family tree, but not much known about him on it apart from a wife and daughter:

http://www.heardfamilyhistory.org.uk/ghtout/ipp.htm

and his medal card on National Archives site : http://www.rootschat.com/links/02oo/

Do you have census information for him?  I can see him in 1881 & 1891

Barbara
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Hill on Friday 08 February 08 08:53 GMT (UK)
Hi

A quick scan of the Jersey Archive shows that there is a report of a "meeting of the officers of the North Regiment to consider the conduct of Captain Pellier 15/5/1818". There are also research notes on a Pellier family tree. Would any of this be useful?

Stewart
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Old Jack on Friday 08 February 08 12:23 GMT (UK)
Hello - Thank you both very much.

Barbara - I think I have this material, but not the census. are you able to send it?  Thank you for your kindness.

Hill - That would be really interesting please.
Are you able to send it to me?

What amazing help this forum is and what kind members.
Thanks

Old Jack
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Hill on Friday 08 February 08 14:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Jack

Yes, I can find out the information although the Archive Centre is now closed until Tuesday.

My only question though is 1818 too early as Ecneps link implies that he didn't get married until 1896 - which would have made him in his 80's

I'll certainly look them up and if they are worhwhile you can obtain copies, albeit at a small cost to the Archive Centre.

Stewart!!
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Old Jack on Friday 08 February 08 15:33 GMT (UK)

Hello Stewart - How stupid can I get - I read the date as 1918.
Thank you for your trouble - The reason I am looking for the great war
Captain  Charles de Chanval Pellier  Royal Army Medical Corp
is because our village is hoping to mount a commemorative exhibition
for the 90th anniversary of the 1918 Armistice and the men and women
who served and survived the war.
I thank you again for your trouble and regret I did not explain things better.
With very best wishes from a sunny south devon.
Old Jack
 
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 08 February 08 16:49 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Marriage registration Sept Qu 1886 Kingsbridge 5b 387
Charles de Chanval PELLIER to Winifred E HARRIS-PITTS

1881 census RG11/5611 fol.51 p.1
Roseville House, St. Helier, Jersey
PELLIER
William     head m 60 Ship Owner  St. Helier Jersey
Mary M     wife   m 37                     England
Amy E       dau      12 Scholar         St. Helier Jersey
Elsie M       "           9     "                       "
Charles de C son   7     "                       "
Ethel E      dau        1                             "
Esther    mother wid 85 Annuitant         "
Annie SMITH serv wid 53 Nurse &c   England
Selina E VEASEY serv m 23 Cook   St. Helier Jersey
Ann L R LAURENS  "   u  19 Nurse          "
Annie POWER        "  u   22 Housemaid  England
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 08 February 08 16:52 GMT (UK)
1891 RG12/906 fol.53 p.7
Cliff House School, Southbourne on Sea, Christchurch, Hampshire
Charles de C PELLIER boarder 17  Scholar   St. Helier Jersey

Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900
Name -  Charles De Chanval. Pellier
College - CLARE
Entered - Michs. 1892
Died - 13 Jun 1946
More Information - 
Adm. at CLARE, Oct. 10, 1892
School, Victoria College, Jersey.
Matric. Michs. 1892; B.A. 1895; M.A. 1899; B.Chir. 1902. At St Bartholomew's Hospital.
Of Abbot's Kerswell, Newton Abbot, Devon.
Served in the Great War, 1914-19 (Capt., R.A.M.C.)
Latterly of Teignmouth, where he died June 13, 1946. (Univ. War List; Medical Directories; The Times, June 18, 1946.)

Hope this helps, Barbara

Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Old Jack on Sunday 10 February 08 01:17 GMT (UK)
Hello Barbara - Thank you for the information. It really fills in the blanks I had on this man.
Really very kind of you.
With best wishes
Old Jack
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 10 February 08 01:34 GMT (UK)


Well Old Jack ... I was all excited 'cos I found this ...

http://rcnarchive.rcn.org.uk/data/VOLUME055-1915/page496-volume55-18thdecember1915.pdf

But Googling some more I just realised you already have it from Stebie ....... !!  :)

But as I found it ........... I'm posting it anyways !!  ;D ;D

Annie  :)
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Old Jack on Sunday 10 February 08 03:12 GMT (UK)
Hello Annie - Thanks for your efforts. Are you like me having
trouble sleeping?
Most of all I was hoping for a photo of him. I shall try
Teignmouth/Dawlish Museum.
Now that Bedford has stopped Times Access I can't use
the Times until I can get to my local library.
Best wishes

Old Jack
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 10 February 08 04:03 GMT (UK)

This is the best I can do I'm afraid ... but I will keep looking Jack !!  :)

Oxford and Cambridge Year Book

Pellier Charles de Chanval Clare BA 1895 MB 1902

13 Marlborough Mansions Cannon Hill NW

Well I wanted to attach a photo of the Mansions but this board won't let me ... if you'd like it -  PM me with your email and I'll send it !! 

Annie  :)


Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: vouvray on Monday 11 February 08 20:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Old Jack,

I briefly responded to you under the 1914-18 website.  I am carrying out archaeological and historical research into Tesson Mill in Jersey which was owned by the Pellier family between 1835 and 1895.  It was purchased (piecemeal) by Philippe Pellier and was inherited by his son William in 1863 and by the latter's son Charles de Chanval Pellier on William's death in 1892. CdeCP was the only surviving son of William Pellier and Mary Margaret Pellier née Hughs and he had three sisters.  Unfortunately the family has died out in Jersey but I understand that there may be descendants in South Africa but I have been unable to locate them (so far!).  CdeCP died in 1946 his wife Winifred Elizabeth Pellier née Harris-Pitts died in 1921 and he left a sole child - Leonore Mary de Chanval Burner née Pellier - who I understand was in South Africa.  Below are my notes

1881 Census - 7 - Roseville House, Roseville Street, St Helier
1891 Census - 17 - Cliff House School, Christchurch, Hampshire
1901 Census - 27 - Living on own means - Flat No 13, 2 Marlboro Mansions, Hampstead, London

London Gazette 17-2-1915 - Royal Army Medical Corps.
The undermentioned to be temporary Lieutenants: —
Dated 30th January, 1915 - Charles de Chanval Pellier.
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

London Gazette 14-4-1919 - ARMY MEDICAL SERVICE, R.A.M.C.—
The undermentioned temp. Capts. relinquish their commns.: —
And retain the rank of Capt. : —
17th Mar. 1919 - Charles de Chanval Pellier.
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900
about Charles DE Chanval. Pellier
Name: Charles DE Chanval. Pellier
College: CLARE
Entered: Michs. 1892
Died: 13 Jun 1946
More Information:
Adm. at CLARE, Oct. 10, 1892. School, Victoria College, Jersey. Matric. Michs. 1892; B.A. 1895; M.A. 1899; B.Chir. 1902. At St Bartholomew's Hospital. Of Abbot's Kerswell, Newton Abbot, Devon. Served in the Great War, 1914-19 (Capt., R.A.M.C.). Latterly of Teignmouth, where he died June 13, 1946. (Univ. War List; Medical Directories; The Times, June 18, 1946.)

Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: vouvray on Monday 11 February 08 20:50 GMT (UK)
The Captain Pellier of 1818 was his great grand father Daniel Pellier who appears to have got into trouble for appearing to refuse to agree seconds for a duel - I will try to find more on this but it's unlikely




Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Old Jack on Tuesday 12 February 08 15:51 GMT (UK)

Hello Vouvray - Thank you for this information. I shall try the local museums for a
photograph. Other than that I suspect that there is little chance of finding one.
As a matter of interest my searching on the 1914 - 1918 forum is turning up
some great results
Thank you and very best wishes.
Bob (Old Jack)
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: signet on Tuesday 03 February 09 23:31 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am researching Charles Pellier as he is  a ancestor of mine via his Grandmother any photos or army info would be gratefully received

Thanks
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 03 February 09 23:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Signet

Welcome to Rootschat  :)

I think there's lots of information already given on this thread about Charles, but I'm sure Old Jack will contact you when he comes back online

Kind regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Captain Charles de Chanval Pellier Royal Army Medical Corp
Post by: Old Jack on Saturday 07 February 09 12:43 GMT (UK)

Hello Signet - I am sorry to say that I have never been able to trace any
photos.

Barbara is correct I only know what is already on this site about him.

I am sorry I can not add anything to help you with.

Best wishes

Old Jack