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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: kellygang on Wednesday 06 February 08 00:37 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone tell me if there is a St Rollox in Glasgow, as I can't find it on a map.
From a 1901 census, one of our fellow forumees informs me of the family I am trying to trace, they resided in Foundry pl, St Rollox.
Also, it would be very helpful if anyone can find a birth/baptism of Janet Stewart, b. 1898 of the approx. area to John and Mary Stewart.
Cheers
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Hi there
Yes there was a registration district named St. Rollox. As far as I know it existed from 1875 to 1906 as registration district 644/06. It then morphed into 644/08 from 1907 to 1934. After that it must have been consumed by another district or assumed a new name...not really sure.
The wiki has this to say about the burgh of St. Rollox... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_St._Rollox_%28UK_Parliament_constituency%29
The valuation maps from the Glasgow Story website show St. Rollox in Ward 8...
http://www.theglasgowstory.com/valmap.php?ward=8
Hope this helps a bit...
Best wishes
Jean
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I was just typing up the same wiki link as Jean ;D
St Rollox is/was in The Barony area of Glasgow - and according to GENUKI, Barony itself is now hard to locate on a map , due to having been swallowed up by the city of Glasgow........so I imagine, it's bit like the cat that swallowed the bird that swallowed the fly.....St Rollox got 'hidden' in the same manner?
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/LKS/Barony/index.html
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/LANARK/1999-07/0930983657
Cheers
AMBLY
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Do you have Mary's maiden name?
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Do you have Mary's maiden name?
Thank you for your reply, yes I do have her maiden name.
Mary (Robertson?) Brogan, m. Robert Caddenhead Stewart, 1890, Kelvin, Glasgow.
Regards,
Debbie
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Brilliant link originally supplied by Falkryn to the 1874 Registration Districts in Glasgow:
www.douglasbrown.co.uk/glw74map.html
Regards.
Monica
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Monica
Thanks for the link - I will find it very useful. I've been following this thread because I'm from Glasgow but I don't know the city and its geography as well as I should. Not my fault, my parents dragged me south when I was 7, and I've been in England so long I'm afraid I've gone native!
Mean_genie
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Thanks from me too....that is a brilliant map!
Best wishes
Jean
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ST. Rollox still exists in Glasgow although the name lives on only in the industrial estate
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The St Rollox Business & Retail Park (shown on the map above) is on the site of the old Caledonian Railway's St Rollox Locomotive & Carriage Works. These works began in 1856 and lasted - as repair shops - until fairly recently (1970s?)
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An interesting article about the area
http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/mlemen/mlemen091.htm
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There are 2 Janet Stewart's listed on Scotland's People both born in the year 1898, Lanark, St Rollox.
St Rollox is also known as the Garngad.
The Garngad was a well known Irish quarter in Glasgow.
Districts did change from High Church to Dennistoun to St Rollox over time.
The Garngad is now known as Royston Road. There is some interesting information on the internet about the Garngad.
Hopefully this information may be helpful with your searches.
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A map of the area in 1913 here
http://www.theglasgowstory.com/valmapview.php?id=08
and
http://www.theglasgowstory.com/valmapview.php?id=06
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The St Rollox Business & Retail Park (shown on the map above) is on the site of the old Caledonian Railway's St Rollox Locomotive & Carriage Works. These works began in 1856 and lasted - as repair shops - until fairly recently (1970s?)
this is still there it is now part of the railcare group, my other half works in it. part of the ground was sold off to make way for the retail park
carolyn
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Hi, my dad's birth certificate states that he was born in the maternity hospital glasgow, registered in the district of St Rollox and his address was listed as Mathieson Street, Hutchesontown. Is this the same st rollox or is it a diiferent part of the city?
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As far as I'm aware there was only one St Rollox area in Glasgow although it did cover a huge area including parts of Springburn, Garngad right down to the Royal Infirmary area which would have included the maternity hospital.
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Is it Janet Orr Stewart, 14/04/1896 who married a James Withers, 1921, in the Gorbals,
Glasgow, that you are searching for?
P.S. St. Rollox Retail Park, the old railway depot is in what is now known as the Springburn area of Glasgow just north of the Royal Infirmary in Glasgow which will be on any map.
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Folks, the St Rollox Loco' Works (The Caley) are still in operation, although greatly reduced in extent and payroll........Skoosh.
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G'day, I have Janet Stewart and John and Mary Stewart in my tree.
I am confident they would be the same ones.
Dave
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G'day, I have Janet Stewart and John and Mary Stewart in my tree.
I am confident they would be the same ones.
Dave
Well, sorry folks. As you may all know such is detective work, I was on the wrong track.
My grandmother changed her birth name from Agnes Lennox Stewart to Nana Lennox Stewart when she emigrated to New Zealand.
Hence the wrong family was being traced. I am pleased to let you know I found the right family originating from Cambusthean/Motherwell.
Thank you all for your (fruitless)help. But wasn't it fun and eventually a lot of good information was divulged.
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KG, there's a poster on here who is very knowledgeable on Cambusnethan. Skoosh.
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hi,
this is such a long shot, but I am searching for any information on my late Father who I believe may have been born in the St Rollox area. His name was (*) Rennie born on 14th August btween 1930 - 1934. I was gven a name (*) also that was related to him. He lived in Liverpool also and Newcastle. I thought I would just send a message and ask if you had any information on such a person? thanks so much..
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Donna,
Welcome to Rootschat.
Not such a long shot.
According to Scotland's People, there were only 6 (*) Rennies born over the period you state, 1 of whom was born in St Rollox in 1934.
Unfortunately, the record is too recent to view online.
Unless you can visit Glasgow or Edinburgh, you would need to purchase the death record from GROS.
The GROS ref is 644/08 2254
Dave
Cost is £12.
Info on how to obtain extract..... http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/bdm.html
PS The info you should get on the document would be exact time and date born, where born, details of both parents.
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Many Thanks Dave for all your help. Unfortunatley I dont even know my father's parent's names, so would still be none the wiser if it was him.
He could possibly have been born anywhere in Glasgow. I need to find someone who knows a (*) Rennie that then lived in Liverpool as a youngster and then Newcastle Upon Tyne in his 30'2.
Donna
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I wish you good luck Donna.
Sorry I cant help.
Dave
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Donna do you have a copy of his marriage certificate as it should give his father's name
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no, i have nothing about him what so ever other than his name was (*) Rennie born in Glasogow on 14th August around 1930-1934. he then moved to Liver pool as a child and then Newcastle. I know he was married then with 3 children and one on the way, then met my Mother and had me.
I believe he moved back to Scotland in his later years before he passed on. I am teying to trace other brothers and sisters of mine to by him but have no leads at all.
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Hi again Donna,
This site is about tracing ancestry as opposed to tracing living relatives. So, it is not the best forum for you for tracing your brothers or sisters.
IF the (*) Rennie we found in St Rollox born in 1934 is your dad, it appears he died in Scotland (Ayrshire) in 2001.
This is supposition, based on the fact that you think (*) was born in St Rollox. The death record will show who registered the death. Perhaps a son or daughter, or another living relative?
If you are sure his birthday was 14th August, spending the £12 for the birth record I mentioned would confirm whether or not it is the correct person, because it would show the exact date of birth. Then you could go for the death record?? - it's a starting point.
I wish you luck,
Dave
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Donna have you tried GenesReunited?
There is a member who has a (*) Rennie born Scotland 1930
You could try contacting them to see if it is the right (*)
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Dear mod, (MonicaL?)
I don't often disagree with you, but haven't you gone OTT with the censorship of this post?
Donna has made it clear that Mr Rennie has died.
I also mentioned to Donna about RC attitude to living rellies.
Limited ' details' stated are public record.
So, boo hiss at your censorship on this occassion. :P ;D
Dave x
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Boo, hiss I will take on the chin Dave!
We have to remember that Donna's search is not straightforward. Her father will likely have living children/descendants who may not be aware of Donna and the situation. A on line open forum is not the way for anyone to discover this information about a close relative/parent....
Hopefully with all the advice provided (or any via private message), Donna will have good pointers on how to proceed further.
Monica
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Exits stage left to further boos and hisses ;D
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We have to remember that Donna's search is not straightforward. Her father will likely have living children/descendants who may not be aware of Donna and the situation. A on line open forum is not the way for anyone to discover this information about a close relative/parent....
Point well made and accepted.