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Title: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Suziesmith37 on Tuesday 05 February 08 18:01 GMT (UK)
Stumped! ???

I am trying to trace any information/record of the death of James Barker Born 1839 Coverack - Wife Emily.

Last record I can find is 1871 census where he lived at 30 Wellington Terrace, Falmouth.

By the census of 1881 Emily has moved back to North Corner, Coverack and is widowed.

There is the tale in the family that he died 'at sea', but their seems to be no local record?

Have skim read all the local journals/papers from 1871 to 1881 and no Death records match his age.

Can anyone help with a new direction? ???

Su
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Tuesday 05 February 08 23:27 GMT (UK)
A 22yr old at Cury ??age could be wrong
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=101557&dbtype=burials
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Suziesmith37 on Tuesday 05 February 08 23:49 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for that one - I must admit i have looked and discounted it because of the age. 

Perhaps it would be wiser to try and look at the original entry to see if the age is up for question!  ???

A 2nd opinion helps!

Cheers Su
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Wednesday 06 February 08 00:01 GMT (UK)
I thought I might be able to eliminate the 22 year old by finding him in census, but your James aged 32 is the only one I can find

So it would appear they are 2 separate people, what a shame, but at least shows you can eliminate that death.

Ahhhhhhhhhh now I look just for Jas
this probably is the other in 1871
Parish S.KEVERNE; District 8; Schedule 027
 
                       Position       Marital
Name                   in Family      Status  Age
BARKER, JAS            Head           M       53 
BARKER, PRISCILLA      Wife           M       51 
BARKER, JAS            Son            U       19 
BARKER, PATIENCE       Daughter       U       16 
BARKER, EMILY          Daughter       -       12 
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Suziesmith37 on Wednesday 06 February 08 00:16 GMT (UK)
A brilliant deduction, just saved me a trip to investigate.

I must admit I just search Barker now for the whole of Cornwall - so many mis-spelt names at the time!

But makes for a great challenge for us now.

Thnx Su
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: deb usa on Wednesday 06 February 08 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Su

I looked for anything to do with James Barker, Cornwall on the National Archives ... nothing came up for him but there is this ... I am not sure if this one is related to you but I thought I would post anyway ....maybe James' grandad?

Sessions held at Bodmin QS/1/7/539-557
July last they shipped at Liverpool 2,800 bushels of British fishery salt to carry it to Coverack, in parish of Gweek, on account of James Barker, fish curer. During a storm on the voyage they lost 65 bushels 22 lbs. of salt: Collector of Excise to cancel
Date: 1808.

will look further ...deb
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Suziesmith37 on Wednesday 06 February 08 21:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Deb

Thank you so much for looking - it is great to see fresh material.

No doubt this James Barker is a thread to the Barker trail and I shall log him with intent to chase.

I will show this to my Dad, he will laugh as he always said there was something 'fishy' about us lot 8).

Thank Su

Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Suziesmith37 on Thursday 20 March 08 23:23 GMT (UK)
Hiya

Just a little update on this one -

There is a report in a book called Coverack by Cyril Hart (page 56 top) regarding a 'Jim Barker who dies whilst trying to haul in a store pot. 

It describes Jim as a fisherman/pilot an 'experienced seaman, as such - a Falmouth tug 'Lizard' was entering Coverack and tried to help Jim but he unfortunately died.

I am now trying to prove/disprove that this man could be my James Barker.

Incidently the tug was built in 1878 so it does the fit the possible time frame.

Su
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Suziesmith37 on Monday 04 July 11 16:51 BST (UK)
 :D Good News I have at last found some written evidence of my Trinity Pilot James Barker!
He died at sea on 19th April 1871 so at least I have his date of death to work with now.
Only took 30 years to find this date so there is hope for us all.
Thanks to everyone who helped along the way. Su x
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Dave Jones on Monday 04 July 11 19:33 BST (UK)
Cornwall Gazette Saturday 22nd April 1871
Falmouth – Fatal Accident
On Wednesday morning, James Barker, aged 40, one of the managing pilots on board No. 3 pilot cutter, belonging to the port of Falmouth, was accidentally drowned outside the harbour.  It is said that he was in the act of reefing the sail, when the boom swerved and knocked him overboard. He leaves a wife and four children.

Cornwall Gazette Saturday 29th April 1871
Fatal Accident
On Wednesday the crew of No. 3 pilot cutter, “Vie”, were engaged in taking down a reef in the mainsail, the cutter being about eight miles south of the Lizard, when the sheet blew from its hold and the boom swung out, taking James Barker, the sailing-master, who was assisting at the work, over the side with it. The poor fellow, with the violent motion of the boom, was unable to hold on, and quickly dropped into the water and sunk. Mr Barker, who was a nephew of the owner of the cutter, was about 35 years old, and leaves a wife and four young children.
Title: Re: BARKER - Trinity Pilot
Post by: Suziesmith37 on Monday 04 July 11 19:40 BST (UK)
Dave Jones - Thank you!!  Nothig for 30 years and then they all come along - I have been sat for five hours today looking for more info and voila!
Really appreciated   ;D - Su x