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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Herefordshire => Topic started by: Gisele45 on Tuesday 05 February 08 14:03 GMT (UK)
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I'm a relative newcomer to tracing my roots but discovered recently that one of my great grandmothers was a farmer's daughter who came from Marden. She was married in the village church in 1858. Before I drive there to have a look at the village is there a member of Rootschat who can tell me if New House, Marden is still standing? Also are there any members of the Adams family still farming the land in the area?
Gisele Earle
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Hi
I don't know Marden, but my ancestors are also from there - the Mattey's. William Mattey (1831) was the schoolmaster, so it is likely your ancestors bumped into him! I know the schoolhouse is still there, but sorry don't know about New House. Just thought I would say hello! (and if you find any Burtons, Bakers or Matteys we might be related).
Claire
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Thank you for this and I'll look out for those names when I research that branch of my family further.
Gisele45.
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You might find this useful
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs/miindex.html
It is the monumental Inscriptions for some of Herefordshire and there are some Adams on there.
Claire
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How do you access these monumental inscriptions? I'd be interested to know, when you have time to reply.
Gisele.
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Click on the link, and then choose the letter you want! You then have to search for the name. It doesn't tell you everything that is on the grave, but it's useful for getting death dates and also sometimes finding groups of people who are related.
Claire
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Thank you Claire. It tells me when my great great grandparents died.
Gisele.
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Hi Gisele, I'm just a mile away from Marden, in Sutton, do you know anything more about New House, I'll try to find it. There is a ** just a mile the other way. If you're brave enough, their tel no is Moderator comment: Info removed to protect privacy. Please use the Pm system to pass such information Contact again if I can help.
Holmes!
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Thank you for getting in touch. I know nothing about Marden, still less about New House, although I must have passed very near it quite often when going to Wales from Oxford where I live. I knew there was a Hereford connection in the family, but it wasn't till recently, when I began researching my family history, that I discovered that a great grandmother came from Marden, was called Mary Adams and was the daughter of one John Adams. He described himself in the 1851 census as 'guardian and farmer of 280 acres employing 9 labourers'. I'm not sure that I'm brave enough to ring the Adams family who currently live nearby, but I might write to them. Thank you for telling me about them anyway. I shall certainly make a detour to Marden next time I go to Wales.
Kind regards,
Gisele.
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This might interest you Gisele - go to old-maps.co.uk and follow the links to Marden. There you'll find New House Farm just to the east of the village. The maps are 1895 and 1905 and the farm looks like a very substantial property in those times.
Furthermore, on current O/S maps the name is the same.
Holmes!
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Thank you for this. I'll certainly look for New House on the OS maps.
Gisele.
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Hello all! I too have relatives who lived in Marden in the 19th century, and I'd love to know more; my great-great-great-grandfather's eldest brother William Vickress was listed as living in Marden in 1861, in the DOWER HOUSE; his wife Mary was living there, as was his younger sister Milborough, and Mary's niece Hannah (who later married William's youngest brother Alfred).
In 1881 William had already passed but his brother Alfred is living in Lilmarsh (??) with his wife Hannah and their two young children.
These are the dates they all passed away; is there any chance there's a family plot or a headstone with their name?
William Vickress, died 1870.
Mary Vickress, née Orchard died 1883.
Alfred Vickress, died 1900.
Hannah Vickress, née Orchard died 1915.
Alfred and Hanna's daughter Sarah died in 1963 having married a man called Walwyn; they also died in Marden, so they might be buried there. As far as I know,the men in the family were carpenters and farmers. Sarah's elder brother William was murdered in Hereford in 1927, but would there be any mention of this in Marden at all, be it in a local gazette or other?
Thank you! Best regards!
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Hi cimbrio, if it helps your research, in 1881 Alfred was probably living in Litmarsh with a t not an l. It's a small area just next to Marden to the NE.
You say Sarah married a man called Walwyn, was that his first name or his surname?
If you want to find out more about poor old William's story the main local paper is The Hereford Times, it would certainly have covered that event. Also you could try the Court archives as there would have been a trial if the culprit was apprehended, and, in those days, a hanging!
Hope this helps, Holmes!
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Thanks Sherlock!
Yes, Litmarsh is correct, I found it after writing my post. Sarah's husband was called Arthur John Walwyn, he died in 1939; they had a daughter who I think is married and still alive though over 90.
How could I get hold of a copy of The Hereford Times copy of the day following the murder, or any way of someone checking it for me? There was an inquest after the murder, but tragically the murdered pulled the gun on himself and died; he had previously tried to kill one of William's daughters too!).
Do you know if the graves of any of the above-mentioned could be foudn in Marden churchyard?
Thanks again! :)
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have a look at this thread, it may help.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=v9i4c01bi0qbksrro4gumrhtr3&topic=337873.165
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Thanks RedMike, I'm afraid it was I who started that thread as well; some posts did cover parts of the Vickress family but the original thread was not related, I think the ramifications just got out of hand.
I know we shouldn't "repeat" topics although the Marden side of the family has hardly been dealt with at all :)