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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hertfordshire => Topic started by: Scott Thompson on Monday 04 February 08 13:06 GMT (UK)
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I know this is a long shot but I am trying to find some info of the family of
Elizabeth Stanton born about 1911 to 1915 in Hinksworth. Her father was
Arthur Stanton who tragically died under a trains wheels at Shephards Bush
tube station at the age of about 72.
Can anyone help?
Scott
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Hi Scott,
there's this family in 1901 census RG13/1293 fol.8 p.7
Bury End, Hinxworth, Hertfordshire
STANTON
Arthur head m 29 Shepherd
Ellen? (Emma?) wife m 28
Ada N dau 7
Amy E " 5
Harry son 3
Emily dau 1
all born Hinxworth
same page 2 houses before:
Ann STANTON head Wid 73 Herts Ashwell
Alfred " son s 44 General Lab Hinxworth
do any of these names sound familiar?
Marriage for Arthur William Stanton with Emma Street on same page
1892 Dec Qu Royston 3a 735
Barbara
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Thanks Barbara and hello again.
I will have to get back to you on that but it
certainly looks promising.
Scott ;)
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1891 RG9/1101 fol.99 p.5
High Street, Hinxworth, Hertfordshire
STANTON
Albert head m 37 Agr. Labourer Hinxworth Herts
Ann Mitalda wife m 28 Morden Surrey edit aged 38
Arthur son s 18 " " Hinxworth
Jack " s 16 " " "
George " 12 " " "
Maude dau 6 Scholar "
1881 RG11/1411 fol.fol.122 p.9
High Street, Hinxworth
Albert head m 27 Farm Labourer
Ann Matilder wife m 29
Arthur son 8 Scholar
Jack " 6 "
George " 2
all born Hinxworth
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Albert Stanton married Ann Matilda Thompson
Dec Qu 1872 Royston 3a 377
earlier census details if you think this is the right family
Barbara
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Barbara
was Ann Matilda 38 years old in 1891?
Scott
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Well done, you spotted my deliberate mistake :-\ :-[
post edited
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Hello Barbara
I must apologize for an omission. I t now transpires that Arthur Stanton
married a Bird, I mean that as a surname not a slang reference. Is there
anything out there involving this new info?
Scott :-[
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Dec 1905
Arthur William Stanton m Violet Williamson Bird
Royston 3a 1128
A second marriage?
Richard
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Thank you for that. At last we seem to be on the right track.
Apparently there was a Mabel and Winifred on either the Bird or
Stanton side.
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The following births look relevant, given that the marriage was in Royston:
Annie E Stanton (mother nee Bird) Dec 1913 Royston
Elsie L Stanton (mother nee Bird) Mar 1921 Royston
The mother's maiden name was not given before 1911, but these may be relevant:
George Albert Stanton Mar 1902 Royston
Albert Reginald Stanton Dec 1907 Royston
Winifred Stanton Mar 1910 Royston
..and this oddity:
George S Stanton (mother nee Wiliamson) Sep 1911 Royston (could be a mistake as Williamson is Violet's middle name)
Other entries:
Birth: Violet Williamson Bird Dec 1878 Biggleswade
I can't find Elizabeth's birth 1911 - 1915. There is an entry for an Elizabeth Rose Bird in Biggleswade in 1902. There is also this, which could have the Bird repeated by mistake:
Elizabeth E Bird (mother's maiden name Bird) Dec 1913 Royston
Richard
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Thank you very much. This is indeed looking promising. I will have to try and see
if this lot jogs any memories. The question then becomes is this Arthur Stanton
the same one with a mother named Ann Matilda Thompson!
Scott :-\
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Hello
I was researching the Stantons of Hinxworth a couple of months ago, although mine lived there in the 1700s. Having had a quick look on the IGI and 1881 census, I think you're probably connected to the same family by one of two ways - there were cousins of a similar age called William Stanton and I can't tell which is yours, although his marriage certificate of 1842 would settle that.
The 1881 and 1891 censuses already referred to in earlier responses point to Albert Stanton being born about 1853:
ch. 21 Aug 1853, Albert son of William & Sarah Stanton
which suggests this marriage:
m. 24 Jul 1842, William Stanton & Sarah Humberstone
and this family living in Hinxworth on the 1881 census:
William Stanton, Head, 60, Hinxworth, Farm labourer
Sarah Stanton, Wife, 59, Hinxworth
Amelia Stanton, Dau, 16, Hinxworth
Looking then for William's christening finds two likely candidates:
ch. 15 Oct 1820, William son of Edmund & Patty Stanton
ch. 23 Jul 1820, William son of Francis & Sarah Stanton
At this stage I'm pretty sure of a connection, as all the male Stantons I researched seemed to be called either Edmund or Francis. These two Williams were probably cousins - their fathers were both sons of Francis Stanton:
ch. 1795, Edmund son of Francis & Elizabeth Stanton
ch. 7 Jan 1798, Francis son of Francis Stanton (mother not named)
These probably point to this marriage:
m. 21 Sep 1791, Francis Staunton & Elizabeth Omant
which points to this christening:
ch. 9 Apr 1769, Francis son of Francis & Elizabeth Stanton
which points to this marriage:
m. 4 Dec 1760, Francis Stanton & Elizabeth Blee
which points to this christening:
ch. 26 Jun 1737, Francis son of Edmund & Alice Stanton
At which point I shout Eureka (but quietly because I'm on my lunch break in the office) because Edmund Stanton (1708-1781) was my wife's ancestor. I went to Hertfordshire Archives last month and obtained a copy of his will, which I've transcribed and put on Your Archives:
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Will_of_Edmund_Stanton_of_Hinxworth%2C_Herts._proved_6_Feb_1781
You'll see that Edmund left a number of properties in Hinxworth and Bassingbourn, including one left to his son Francis. From the description of the house left to Francis and poring over old maps, I'm reasonably confident that the house left to Francis is still there and called Cammocks - certainly it backed onto an orchard with a pond in it, had a three acre field behind it and is hidden from the road (now called Chapel Street) by a large barn. Between the house and barn was a yard with outbuildings down one side, which could well have been 'shops' in the sense of workshops (Edmund was a carpenter). Also, looking at plans of Cammocks held at North Herts District Council there was a workshop along that side of the yard until the 1980s when the house was extended with a two storey extension across the site of the workshop.
There are photographs of both Cammocks and its barn on www.imagesofengland.org.uk - just search for 'Cammocks'.
Hope that's of interest to you.
Regards
Richard.
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Quick follow up - I've just noticed Bury End also has a photo on www.imagesofengland.org.uk - search either for 'Bury End' or 'Hinxworth' and you should get there. Very attractive little thatched cottage. It's slightly out of the village on the road towards Ashwell.
Regards
Richard.
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Richard
Thank you for that. My father-in-law(son of the Elizabeth Stanton first mentioned) who had doubts about being
able to take this too far back, will be amazed!
Hope you enjoyed your lunch.
Scott
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Is there anything out there on Violet Williamson Bird's family?
Scott
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Hello again - looking at my notes from Hertfordshire Archives, there were some other Stanton wills from Hinxworth that I didn't look up, but which might be on your direct line:
1805: Stanton, Francis sen carpenter Hinxworth 129HW67 21HR354
1849: Stanton, Francis victualler Hinxworth 130HW32
There's also an administration bond that I didn't have time to look for:
1720: Stanton, Francis Hinxworth ad bd H23/2206
Thanks
Richard.
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Hello there, it's me again.
Can anyone find out about Ann Matilda Thompson, the wife of Albert Stanton. The 1871 census has her coming from the end of the Northern Line in Morden, but the only birth I can come across with that name is one in March 1850 and has her born in Royston,Herts. Is she mentioned in any earlier census?
Yours
Scott ???
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I imagine the Morden in question is one of the Mordens just over the border into Cambridgeshire - Steeple Morden or Guilden Morden. Both are within the Royston registration district, so the 1850 registered birth seems quite plausible.
Regards
Richard.
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I have just obtained the birth cert of Ann Matilda Thompson, born Dec 20th 1849 in Guilden Morden. Her father was William Thompson, a labourer and her mother was Betsey Waldock. Can anyone shed some light on this family.
Scott :)
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Hi there,
I have been researching my family tree and i believe that i am descended from the Stantons in question. I have so far got the following:
1841 Census High st Hinxworth
STANTON francis Head m 43 Agr Labourer Hinxworth
Sarah wife m 43 "
william s 21 "
thomas s 17 "
george s 15 "
james s 13 "
edmund s 11 "
edward s 9 "
fredric s 6 "
1851 Census 14 High St Hinxworth
STANTON George head m 24 Agr Labourer Hinxworth
Ann wife m 23 Ashwele
thomas s 3 Hinxworth
ann d 1 "
allen s 1 month "
1871 Census Hinxworth
STANTON Thomas head m Farm Labourer Hinxworth
ann elizabeth m 44 ashwell
henrietta d 13 thatcher hinxworth
livinia d 15 thatcher "
constantia d 10 "
abraham s 10 "
lilia d 8 "
archibald s 4 "
1901 Census Islington London
STANTON archibald head m 34 Conductor Hinxworth herts
wallers Mary Ann wife m 34 Hitchin herts.
arthur s 1 islington
eva d 5 "
alfred s b. 1902 "
Islington London
STANTON alfred d.1973
married to
Osgathorpe kate Amelia d.1982
Derek s b.1931
Derek is my Father. thats all that i have managed to pull up after a couple of hours on the internet. i am having difficulties tracing the osgathorpe line though, as well as with maiden names.
if anyone out there with a bit more experience in this can offer me a few tips, i'd very much appreciate it
thanks
Mark
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Quick follow up - I've just noticed Bury End also has a photo on www.imagesofengland.org.uk - search either for 'Bury End' or 'Hinxworth' and you should get there. Very attractive little thatched cottage. It's slightly out of the village on the road towards Ashwell.
Regards
Richard.
For anyone interested, Bury End Cottage was the residence of the author Monica Dickens - see her autobiography 'An Open Book'. If you can hold of a copy, there is a photgraph inside of the bookcase, which used to be a fire place before the several small cottages were combined to make the picturesque building we see today.
My son's Great Grandfather was Harry Stanton, who was born there, along with Ada, Amy, Emily & George. He lived most of his adult life in The Cottage, High Street, shown here: http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/Details/Default.aspx?id=162227&mode=quick Next door to Horace Brooks, who lived http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/Details/Default.aspx?id=162226&mode=quick Incidentally, both properties were heavily renovated in the late 1980's, early 1990's after their former occupants died.
If I can help any further, I lived in Hinxworth myself from 1978 to 1993.
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thats all that i have managed to pull up after a couple of hours on the internet. i am having difficulties tracing the osgathorpe line though, as well as with maiden names.
if anyone out there with a bit more experience in this can offer me a few tips, i'd very much appreciate it
Hi Mark,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
It might be best if you post a separate look-up request for your Osgathorpe line, saying what you already know and what you'd still like to find.
You can search for births deaths and marriages free on freebmd, you can find the 1881 census for your Stantons free to view at www.familysearch.org or www.ancestry.co.uk
To fill in your Stanton gaps, here's the 1891 census for Archibald :
RG12 piece 141 folio 86 page 72
36, Girdlestone Road, Islington, London
in household of Michael Concannon, Tram Conductor
Archibald Stanton boarder s 23 Tram Conductor Herts Hinxworth
Lilla " visitor s 27 " "
and 1891 for Thomas:
RG12 piece 1101 folio 100 page 7
High Street, Hinxworth, Hertfordshire
Thomas Stanton head m 67 Agr. Labourer Hinxworth
Ann " wife m 64 Ashwelle
1861 census
RG09 piece 812 folio 123 page 2
Bury End, Hinxworth, Hertfordshire
STANTON
Thomas head m 36 Ag. Lab
Ann wife m 34 Ag. " Wife Ashwell
Rosina dau 10 Straw Plaiter
Clara " 8 Scholar
Lavinnia Mary dau 5 "
Henrietta " 3
Constantia " 2 months twin
Abiahanna " 2 months twin
all except Ann born Hinxworth
The 1871 census you have shows that it's not a son, Abraham aged 10, but is Abrahanna or Abiahanna, daughter, as in 1861
Kind regards
Barbara :)
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Is there anything out there on Violet Williamson Bird's family?
Scott
Violet Williamson Bird b:1878 Cockayne Hatley, Beds d:1921 Hinxworth, Hertfordshire
m) Arthur William Stanton Dec 1905 (b: 1873 Hinxworth d:1944 Shepherds Bush Station**)
**I just did a Google on this and discovered this thread - finding that he died being run over by a train (!!) :o
Children of the above mentioned couple:
*Winnifred Stanton b: 1910 Hinxworth d: 1999 Welwyn Garden City, Hert
*George Stanley Stanton b: 1911 (I'm assuming Hinxworth also) d: 1968 Biggleswade, Beds.
*Annie Elizabeth Stanton b: 1913 Hinxworth d: 1996 Ramsgate, Kent
m) John Theodore Wellard (1921-2005)
*Mabel Stanton b: 1915 Hinxworth, Hert d: 2000 Welwyn Garden City, Hert.
*Elsie L. Stanton b: 1921 Hinxworth, Hert.[/li]
If you'd like more info on Violet Williamson's parents - John Henry Bird or Martha Carver just send me a PM and I'll send you my email addy. :)
BCSandra
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I don't know if this helps anyone at all but from what I have found (if I'm right), Elizabeth Stanton had been a hay plater as a child, then moved from Hertfordshire to London and worked in a Hotel in the Euston (I think) area, I can find the name. She then met Michael Concannon and they had several children in Girdlestone Road in Islington, one of which was my great-grandmother Mary Ann Concannon b around 1883. Mary Ann was a dressmaker at Girdlestone Road at 18 and then married Michael O'Keefe who was born in Ireland. They gave birth to my grandmother and her sister and they all moved back to Ireland where my father was born, in Dublin.
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So Archibald Stanton was in Michael Concanon's house because Michael was married to Elibeth Stanton. Its a while since I looked into this so I am not 100% sure.
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The Elizabeth Stanton I am talking about was born in 1859 and is listed on the 1871 census as Henrietta. On the 1911 census, she is Henrietta Elizabeth, still married to Michael Concannon and living now in Fairbridge Road in Upper Holloway. I still need to double check all this. And she was a thatcher at 13 before moving to London.
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I'd like some help now with Ann Stanton b 1827 (she was 23 in 1851) who was married to Thomas Stanton b 1827 and also Sarah Stanton b 1798 married to Francis Stanton as I don't know their maiden names.
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I'd like some help now with Ann Stanton b 1827 (she was 23 in 1851) who was married to Thomas Stanton b 1827 and also Sarah Stanton b 1798 married to Francis Stanton as I don't know their maiden names.
Hi From the HALS online Herts Marriage Index.
https://www.hertsdirect.org/ufs/ufsmain?esessionid=2&formid=HALS_INDEXES
Francis STANTON to Sarah LANGHORN at Hinxworth - 13 Apr 1820
? Thomas and Anne.
Marriages Sep 1850
STANTON Thomas - Royston Reg District - Volume 6 Page 831
REYNOLDS Anne - Royston Reg District - Volume 6 Page 831
Rick :)