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Title: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 01 February 08 15:59 GMT (UK)
Help needed,
in 1871 William C Martin, aged 42. was living in Lancaster.with his wife Elise who came from Jersey.
it say's he was born Yorkshire , Aidwickale st ???

I wonder if anyone could point me in the right direction to find him on earlier census's .
   Eilleen.
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: DS on Friday 01 February 08 16:18 GMT (UK)
 

Hi

In 1861 I think that it says he is from Doncaster

RG9/1401 Folio 68 Page 50

If that is the same couple

DS ;)

ps It also says Doncaster on the 1901 census for this person
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: peely on Friday 01 February 08 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hello Eilleen,
1861 cencus- Brook st , Dawlish, Devon
William Martin - 33-head - civil & electrical engineer, born Doncaster, Yorkshire.
Elise Martin 28 wife born St Lawrence Jersey
Hope this helps
Peely
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 01 February 08 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Eileen,

if you look on www.genuki.org.uk gazetteer at Doncaster, you'll see that in the 'nearby places' there's Adwick Le Street about 4 miles away

Barbara
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: DS on Friday 01 February 08 17:20 GMT (UK)
 
 

Possible Marriage Registration

1860 Bedminster JAS quarter 5c 1166

William Charles Martin
Elise Le Sueur

DS
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: DS on Friday 01 February 08 17:21 GMT (UK)
If that is her, then this might be useful....

1851

Jersey HO107/2527 Folios 58/59 Pages 23/24

Jane Le Sueur Head Widow 62 Annuitant Jersey St Lawrence
Jane Anquetil Daur Widow 38 Dress Maker Jersey St Lawrence
Betsey Le Sueur Daur U 34 Quiltress Jersey St Lawrence
Mary Ann do Daur U 32 Jersey St Lawrence Dumb
Fanny Le Mottie Daur Widow 30 Jersey St Lawrence
John Le Sueur Son U 26 Tailor (Journeyman) Jersey St Lawrence
Lydie do Daur U 23 Quiltress Jersey St Lawrence
Hannah Elizabeth do Daur U 20 Tailoress Jersey St Lawrence
Elise do Daur U 18 Milliner Jersey St Lawrence
Ann Mourant (?) Sister Widow 67 Annuitant Jersey St Lawrence

4 Patriotic Place, St Helier, Jersey

DS ;)
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 01 February 08 17:58 GMT (UK)
DS, Barbara and peely.
  thankyou, I think my stumbling block has just been removed by you three, :)
Will now study what you have found   :)

maybe back shortly with more question's.
       Eilleen. :-*
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 01 February 08 18:31 GMT (UK)
I'm back  :)
DS.  would you let me have the full information for the 1901 census, or is that pushing it  ;)

and  :)  anyone found where he might be in the 1841.  ???

one more ....... I thought Elise might have had the maiden name of Le Gros  :-\

Eilleen.
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: DS on Friday 01 February 08 20:04 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm back too ;D and here it is ...

1901

Chertsey RG13/587 Folio 117 Page 46


William C Martin Head M 72 Electrical Engineer Yorkshire Doncaster
Elise do Wife M 68 Jersey St Lawrence

Vale Road, Walton on Thames, Surrey

DS ;)
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: DS on Friday 01 February 08 20:21 GMT (UK)
I thought Elise might have had the maiden name of Le Gros

This seems to be the equivalent family ten years earlier...

1841

Jersey HO107/1461/13 Folio 44 Page 41

Jane Le Gros 50
Elias Le Sueur 15 Plasterer
Jane do 25 Sempstress
John do 14 Tailor Ap.
Harriet do 11
Elise do 9
Hannah Laurens (?) 2m

Patriotic Place, St. Helier, Jersey

All born Jersey. Ages over 15 rounded down.

DS
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: DS on Friday 01 February 08 20:55 GMT (UK)
 
 
Hi again

Their son Albert born 1865 in Stafford has Le Gros in his name but their older son, William, born 1861 in Truro had Le Sueur in his name.

Either birth certificate should give a conclusive answer but it looks (on the face of it) to me as if his mother was Le Sueur and his grandmother was Le Gros (at some stage)

DS ;)
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 01 February 08 21:28 GMT (UK)
DS,  you are a gem.  :)

my brickwalls are falling down in front of my eye's  :)

this weeks wage's are going to be spent on certificate's  ;D

bread and cheese for me for a while. :-\

did you see how many widow's there were in 1851 , the men must have cleared of in a boat and not returned  ???

Eilleen.
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: Rossolad on Sunday 03 February 08 12:47 GMT (UK)
Hello,

A bit on the history of Adwick le Street, so named because of it's proximity to the Roman Ermine Street and to distinguish it from a near neighbour Adwick on Dearne.    The church of St Lawrence in Adwick le Street had connections to the Washington family who were local landowners and a coat of arms in the church has the stars and stripes of the Washington family.   A nice village.

Regards,   Ray
Title: Re: not sure which part of Yorkshire
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 03 February 08 13:30 GMT (UK)
Ray,    thankyou so much for the imformation.

Eilleen.