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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: davpri on Thursday 31 January 08 16:42 GMT (UK)
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In the 1841 census the address of my gt. gt. gt. grandfather, William Hill is given as West Street without the Borough. Is anyone familiar with this town who can say if this still exists, and whether "without the Borough" meant that it was outside the town boundary, or is there some other meaning.
Thank you. :o :o Davpri
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Hi Davpri,
I've looked at the enumeration page for this entry, and it says:
'All that part of the Borough of Axbridge from Tuthills Caver to the end of West Street, except six houses which are in the parish of Compton Bishop'
So perhaps his house was just outside the boundary - but there were more than six houses in 'West Street 'without the Borough'
Further on a couple of pages there are houses in 'West Street within the Borough'
Barbara
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Approximately half of West Street was outside the town boundaries until these were changed later in the 19th century. Those on the higher more westerly section of the street were technically inside the parish boundary of Compton Bishop. The census recognised that it was more logical to include the whole street as part of Axbridge for enumeration purposes as everyone who lived there would have considered themselves as part of the town rather than as part of Compton Bishop whose parish church is several miles further away and physically separated from them by a considerable area of farm land.
I live in Axbridge and have a lot of information about the town from my local history studies. If I can help, please let me know. (Axbridge is only village size but all inhabitants always refer to it as a town - a relic of its former importance as an administrative and trading centre for the area around it.)
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Hello GAJ. I have found this and your other post about the street numbers on the 1851 Census not being actual addresses extremely helpful. I have been tracing my family history for some time and have visited Axbridge twice, but had not realised this. I even had a very long chat with the current owners of No 36 High Street (now a cinema) in the belief that my ancestors had lived there because the census record implied that - only to find I was wasting their time!!
My family is Salisbury and if you are familiar with Axbridge history you will know that name well. My Great Great Grand Uncle was James Salisbury, schoolmaster and later master of the workhouse. During my last visit we also spoke to a resident at the old workhouse and he immediately knew of James Salisbury! His twin brother, Charles is my Great Great Grandfather.
I wonder, if you pick this up, if I could take you up on your offer of help on a few points - albeit your offer was not directed at me!! :-[
Regards
Neil
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Neil
I'm happy to be of help if I can. I recognise the Salisbury family and their time in Axbridge in the 18th and 19th centuries. Let me know what you are looking for and I'll see what I can do.
Geraldine
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That would be great! :)
Please could you email me directly at
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with your email address so I can let you know privately (I am not familiar enough with this website to know if there is a private communication mechanism here)
Thanks
Neil Salisbury
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Hi Neil
I think we are related albeit probably distantly. My ancestors are Salisburys of Axbridge also! The earliest ones I know were born in the town were William and Hester (nee Puxton) married in 1783.
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I live in Axbridge and have a lot of information about the town from my local history studies. If I can help, please let me know. (Axbridge is only village size but all inhabitants always refer to it as a town - a relic of its former importance as an administrative and trading centre for the area around it.)
Hello GAJ
I came across this thread whilst researching my family history and wondered if you could help me, please? I am planning a trip to Axbridge later this year and I really want to look at the parish records to confirm the information with regards baptism and marriages that I have. Do you happen to know where the parish records are archived?
My ancestors are Salisburys of Axbridge. The line goes back quite a long way but the first Axbridge ones as far as I can tell are William and Hester (nee Puxton) Salisbury married 1783 (great grandparents x4), Joseph and Sarah (nee Day) Salisbury married 1808 GGGP x3), George and Caroline (nee Heal) Salisbury married 1853 (GGP x2), George (Ernest added later) and 1.Hannah (neeGriffiths) married 1881, 2. Elizabeth (nee Walton) married 1886 (great grandparents). They were all carpenters/ironmongers as far as I can tell and the various addresses I have are unknown number West Street, 36 High Street, 9 High Street, 82 West Street and an unknown number High Street. George (I think) became a mariner and eventually resided in London and died there in 1929. His daughter, Ada, was my grandmother.
Many thanks
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to Neil (nhserv1)
Hi
I have only just started using this site and I see your interests are Salisburys of Axbridge, Buckland Dinham etc.
My family (Salisbury) originated from Buckland Dinham (Richard 1649) and later were mainly shopkeepers, including a James b.1820 at Banwell who later had an ironmongers in Churchill.
My line of descent from Richard 1649, is Richard 1679,Richard 1702,George 1749,Benjamin 1794,Charles 1828,William 1850 and John 1918. I think this may differ slightly from yours but I am sure we must be related via the Buckland Denham link. THis is the area I am interested in at present as I cannot go back beyod Richard1649 or find his siblings/other children with certainty.
If you are interested in comparing notes I am happy to give you my email address if you leave me a message on this site.
Colleen
Or any one else with the same connections?
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Hello Colleen,
Thanks for your email. I believe I am also from Richard (1649), but then we diverge (my next one is John - 1677). But I do have a lot of your tree in my database. However I am struggling to prove some of the connections. I'm very happy to share what I have if you pm me with your email address and I can let you have mine.
With regard to going back beyond Richard (1649), I too am struggling. I think it's because many records were destroyed during the civil war. I've seen some records from that time at Somerset Records Office that are burnt round the edges!
I'll wait to hear from you. :)
Neil.