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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: social-butterflies on Wednesday 30 January 08 18:26 GMT (UK)
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here are a list of children buried at st laurence church eastwood, essex. there was an encampment at bohemia estates for travelling people so these children may be related to those that were camped or had stopped off. they are all ''BUCKLEY'S''
FRANCES 27/01/1807
JOYNER 29/04/1837 -8YRS
RICHARD 09/02/1916 -7YRS
THOMAS 25/11/1918 -4YRS
SIDNEY 02/01/1920 -3YRS
JOHN 06/03/1919 -19YRS
wondering if anyone may know who they belong to as no prents or address's given.
amanda
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Hi Amanda
had a look for you regarding Buckley names you listed :
Not had any luck with Frances Buckley
DEATH FOR :
Joyner Buckley 1838 Apri-may-jun Rochford Essex 12-139
BIRTH FOR :
Richard Buckley 1908 Oct-Nov-Dec Rochford Essex 4a 663
DEATH FOR :
Richard Buckley 1909-1916 Jan-Feb-Mar Rochford Essex 4a 745
BIRTH FOR :
Thomas Buckley1914 Jul-Aug-Sept Rochford Essex 4a 1369
Mother's maiden name SMITH
DEATH FOR :
Thomas Buckley 1914-1918 Oct-Nov-Dec rochford Essex 4a 1452
BIRTH FOR :
John Buckley 1900 jan-Feb-Mar rochford Essex 4a 681
DEATH FOR :
John Buckley Jan-Feb-mar West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 263
Only one gives a mother sorry but might help if anyone wants to get certificates have the reference numbers easier to find
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hi tiggi
thanks for those. not needed by me but as you say useful for others :)
amanda
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Hello, I have just read the posings for the name of BUCKLEY
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Hello.....I have just read the posting for the name of BUCKLEY who were travellers......my husband also has the name of BUCKLEY who were also travellers. we have spent a number of years looking for information on as follows but can find nothing.....perhaps someone here may be able to help,
Charles BUCKLEY b abt 1852 England (was a Pedlar)
(Wife Sarah SMITH b 1853 died 3 Sept 1920 Inverness Scotland.
I think Sarah may have been born in Bury Lancashire. (but I cannot find any information)
Children Emily BUCKLEY b1874 (I think London)
Married Alexander WILLIAMSON (also a traveller. Travelled back & forth from Inverness to Canada.
Susan (Susanah) b1879 (Bury Lancashire)
Keeping Fingers Crossed,
Tinkerbell
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Hi tinkerbell
Have book marked family you are looking for, will see if I can find anything
Do you know that Buckley surname is also known as either Buckland or Bucklin
Just a little info for you : taken from index of Buckland & Buckley names 1888-1973
The Essex Buckley's all descended from a Joe Buckley born about 1780 who married a Gaji Woman from Harwich
Joe had 4 sons
But only Buckley's on road today are the descendants of Joiner & Seni who regard themselves as a very noble breed of Gypsies.
In the Midlands you have Lees. Prices, Buckland & Buckley's
Most of the Buckley's still travel the North of London but some crossed into Kent as their cousins Rhodes & Oadley's
I will look and see if anything comes up for the ones you are looking for will get back to you
sandy
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Hello.....I have just read the posting for the name of BUCKLEY who were travellers......my husband also has the name of BUCKLEY who were also travellers. we have spent a number of years looking for information on as follows but can find nothing.....perhaps someone here may be able to help,
Charles BUCKLEY b abt 1852 England (was a Pedlar)
(Wife Sarah SMITH b 1853 died 3 Sept 1920 Inverness Scotland.
I think Sarah may have been born in Bury Lancashire. (but I cannot find any information)
Children Emily BUCKLEY b1874 (I think London)
Married Alexander WILLIAMSON (also a traveller. Travelled back & forth from Inverness to Canada.
Susan (Susanah) b1879 (Bury Lancashire)
Keeping Fingers Crossed,
Tinkerbell
Hi tinkerbell
I have found something for you :
Emily Williamson
born : 1873 London England
died : 9th Feb 1920 Toronto York Ontario Canada
Aged 47
Married
Spouse Alex Williamson
Parents : Chas Buckley & Sarah Smith
GSU No : 1862970
Digital GS No 4170910
Image No 1047
Ref no Yr 1920 cn 3050
sandy
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got some more : tinkerbell
these are children of Emily Buckley & Alex Williamson
Charles Williamson born 1912 Toronto
died 29th Jan 1913 1yr 1mth 15days
Toronto york Ontario Canada
Susan Williamson born 1903 Scotland
died 2nd Nov 1917 14yrs
Toronto york Ontario
Not sure if this is their father
Alexander Williamson born 28th june 1870 Scotland
died 2nd july 1923 Toronto york Ontario
53 yrs (Scottish)
Parents ; Lindsay williamson
Mary Mae Mullan
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just started researching. Buckley have you got a Ricky john buckley his son was Perrin buckley also know as dukseyany info would be much appreciated
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hi shushie,
nice to hear from you.
could you give dates on perrin and/or ricky and is that short for richard?
do you know who ricklys family members are.
amanda
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not at the moment john Buckley was known as rickyjohn his father was Peron or Perrin Buckley i dont know what Peron Buckleys wife was called i have seen somewhere on this site a Peron Buckley and was wondering if its my ancester have you got any info
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John Buckley was married to a Menty or Minty LOVERIDGE
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Hello.....I have just read the posting for the name of BUCKLEY who were travellers......my husband also has the name of BUCKLEY who were also travellers. we have spent a number of years looking for information on as follows but can find nothing.....perhaps someone here may be able to help,
Charles BUCKLEY b abt 1852 England (was a Pedlar)
(Wife Sarah SMITH b 1853 died 3 Sept 1920 Inverness Scotland.
I think Sarah may have been born in Bury Lancashire. (but I cannot find any information)
Children Emily BUCKLEY b1874 (I think London)
Married Alexander WILLIAMSON (also a traveller. Travelled back & forth from Inverness to Canada.
Susan (Susanah) b1879 (Bury Lancashire)
Keeping Fingers Crossed,
Tinkerbell
do you know who charles buckley's parents were please and maybe where they lived ?
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not at the moment john Buckley was known as rickyjohn his father was Peron or Perrin Buckley i dont know what Peron Buckleys wife was called i have seen somewhere on this site a Peron Buckley and was wondering if its my ancester have you got any info
hi shushie
i do have info on a peron buckley but unsure if it anything to do with who you are looking for. could you give any other info at. his brothers, sisters, parents, area he lived , dates etc.?
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no very little info so far all i know is one of Perons son was my great grandad John Buckley one of his sons was my grandad Peron Buckley nickname dukesy
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i have peron 1857-1945 his wife emily 1857-c1931
their son john james (loumas) buckley c1886-1967 his wife menty loveridge 1891-1975
their children athalia ethel, & henrietta 1914. alfred 1919, stephen 1922 and richard c1925.
think these are the who you are looking for!
amanda :)
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yer thats them but they must of had more children because my grandad should be there PERON HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETWEEN Afred and stephen one more question are these your family to.my names Anna was Buckley my dad was called nathan again known as Sonner Buckley to all his relations
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thanks for the info
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old peron buckley was my g.grandad's brother.
there were 26 all in all apparently but i have only 12 so far. i would assume that not all of them survived either birth, or wars, or poor living conditions if there were alot of them, so im hoping that i will eventually find a few more.
i have met quite a few extended family members online through the buckleys and we have all helped and shared in the info. swapping stories, memories and even the odd photo. it has been really interesting.
on the dates of births that i i entered i have put c, next to it which signifies that the date is not accurate just a guess and also they could be baptism dates rather than birth dates. i have found that the gypsie baptised the children all in one go where-ever they had stopped at that time so some of them were up to 12 yrs old when baptised with the newest addition to the family lol.
i have peron listed as the eldest in 1857 at the moment. i have 7 sisters and 6 brothers for him.
also, my best friend is the grand-daughter of adolphus buckley, son of nathan buckely (perons other son) who was married to uni. dolfe would have been 1st cousin to your ricky/richard!!!
small world is'nt it?
amanda
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i have been looking on census records but can not seem to find any records i guess some never were properly married or registered is there any records you know of.
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could you be more specific please. :)
exactly what is it that you want to know.?
amanda
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is Peron1857 and wife emily on any census records. looking for emilys surname or do you know it.also looking for john who married menty loveridge all the children they had.They should be on census records.But i ham drawing a blank or i'm looking in the wrong place lol
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ok.
i have peron/perrin/perrun. (spelling often altered as its an odd name) married 15/09/1884 in offham kent to emily turner who was a widow, maiden name smith. her parents are lsited as elias & emily taylor. (i wonder if maiden name smith was maybe her mothers name or if she was widowed twice?) dont know that though. the marriage was witnessed by robert taylor and susan shaw.
i have been able to search the 1911 census, thanks to it opening early (fantastic) and it lists him as living in eastwood with his family, have copy & paste this, so it is exactly what census states;
BUCKLEY, PERRIN HEAD MARRIED M 50 WORKING CUTTER LATIMER RD SHEPHERDS BUSH
BUCKLEY, EMILY WIFE MARRIED 26 F 51 PEDLAR HAWKER COLCHESTER EX
BUCKLEY, LOUISA DAUGHTER SINGLE F 16 CHARWOMAN LAMBDEN END ESSEX
BUCKLEY, JOSEPH SON SINGLE M 14 HORSE BOY CANING TOWN
BUCKLEY, THOMAS SON M 12 SCHLOOL CANING TOWN
as you can see it does'nt show the youngest olby/holby or the eldest who by then had probably left and gottheir own families.
hang on i will look and see if any others that may be his sons and their families. back in bit.
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no sorry nothing else on 1911 census for them that i have. but i did run out of credits so its possible that you could look for them on there.
i have found most of my details from searching through parish registers as thats where they got the children baptised and most of them did marry legally, not just "gypsy marriage" what ever that may be ;D
i did give you some details for john and menty though and it seems that the buckleys spent alot of time in kent, particularly at corks meadow area. well peron's family did. also southborough.
have just seen a little note that i left for myself which states this;
married to menty/minty loveridge. grandparents of N-word.
lived at 16 sutton road rochford. grave no;692
i do know that they are buried at eastwood church
stephen & alfred both baptised there 05/05/1923
i have just found this, i think it might confirm emily's name. both maiden & married.
walter smith 18, father josiah smith, married to emily taylor 16, father elias taylor 10/08/1874. witnessed by william & matilda piggott. just to confuse you a bit more josiah smith was actually a buckley but used smith as alias. (so they were really walter & josiah buckley later in life and when they died.) ;)
is this helping?
dont want to confuse things and spend time typing up stuff that you dont really need.
happy to help though. having a spring clean ::) so will be backwards and forwards on the pc if you need any more help
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found some info Santalina Buckley son of Joiner and Seni Smith.Santalina was married to Henrietta Boswell.Santalina was the father to Penderbell (PENDER) and Perun .Santalina was born in 1837 and lived at Eastwood one of 7 children.This sounds like the father to Perun who married Emily Smith or Taylor. have you got this info
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yes i have thank you. :)
they are the parents i refered to in my earlier post......the ones with supposedly 26 children!!
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Hi ive been reading the old posts of which you have posted I too am doing Buckley research and it appears you have lots of the same info as myself,ive hit a wall regarding my grt gran whose father was Solomon Lee she was known as Hannah /Annie Lee she married Duriah/Duey Buckley but to my frustration I have no mother for her,there is only one one sibling left on my mothers side which is her brother he is now in his late 70s and remembers very little now.The marriage I have for Duriah and Hannah only gives fathers name, I do have memories from my grt gran Buckley and a treasured photo but would love to have more to share with my uncle my, if you can shed any light on my research that would be great.
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hi there,
i will look through my stuff and see if i have anything.
back in a bit :)
amanda
p.s do you have any dates etc, and would you email me (*) then i can email you all detials rather than have to type it up which takes me a lifetime.... :D
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Hi ive been reading the old posts of which you have posted I too am doing Buckley research and it appears you have lots of the same info as myself,ive hit a wall regarding my grt gran whose father was Solomon Lee she was known as Hannah /Annie Lee she married Duriah/Duey Buckley but to my frustration I have no mother for her,there is only one one sibling left on my mothers side which is her brother he is now in his late 70s and remembers very little now.The marriage I have for Duriah and Hannah only gives fathers name, I do have memories from my grt gran Buckley and a treasured photo but would love to have more to share with my uncle my, if you can shed any light on my research that would be great.
just to say that i do have some info on lee's but would like to know what census details you already have to save me time from searching through my papers. i also have some very good books that have alot of lee info. one thing i am finding so far is that she didnt always have the surname of lee, it was also hannah biddington...did you know that already? i will wait to hear from you from email :)
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Hi there,
I've only just found this site today but I think I can help, Perun Buckley was my Gt, Gt Grandfather (1857-1931) He married an Emily Turner.
His parents are Santalena Buckley (1837) and Henrietta Boswell, they did indeed have many children including Perun. I don't have all thier names but there is Pender (1866), Adalaide/Adeline (1868), Lazurus (1871), Oti (1864) plus more that I have yet to find out thier names.
"Ricky John" (John James aka Loumas) Buckley was my Gt. Grandfather and my Grandfather was Alfred Buckley (08/10/1919) He married Eileen Bolton (b.1922) and I remember her saying that my Grandad was one of 18 children, I remember some of them from when I met them as a child and other names from family stories.
It all gets very confusing as they used different names all the time and some I only know their nicknames but I'll be glad to help if I can.
While i'm on the subject does anyone have any info on Menty? I only know she was Loveridge before she married Ricky John but I have no parents or siblings. Can any one help?
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You grandad and my grandad were brothers we are related what nickname was your grandad known by no info on menty yet i an trying to find my granny's people grandad duksey perrin buckley married elizabeth Harris her father was Jack Harris know as romford jack or jumping jack harris he was a gorji i think i can not find any info because he changed his name from Miller do anyone from your side of the family know anything.I know most of the history about the Buckley's it all started with a joiner and Seni there son Perun who married emily Taylor/Turner or Smith she was married before and so on not started with menty yet although they are both buried at eastwood she died in 75 age 81 also there are children what are my granda and your grandads brothers there were 20 of them so my uncle says whats your name if you dont mind me asking .Anna
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whats your name if you dont mind me asking
Great that you have found a relative, but just a cautionary word.
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Bob
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Hello again and thankyou for the welcome's! :)
I have managed (after many years) to trace my bloodline back to Joe and Laiza Buckley so I've made all the connections, now I'm filling in the rest and it's no easy task is it? I am totally bogged down with information and struggling to get it in any sort of order....and I have'nt even started on the Loveridge's yet!
The PM is a great idea, I did'nt realise I could do that, now I just have to figure out how to work it.....
Donna
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Hi Donna,
I hope there is enough information about PMs in the help pages, but if not, then just ask, and someone will provide an answer.
The PMs are useful for exchanging personal data and data about living people, but otherwise we encourage everyone to reply on topics, as you never know who else is interested or who will find the site through the "public" data (as you did :) ).
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