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Title: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Wednesday 30 January 08 08:55 GMT (UK)

If any person is looking for a grave let me know the name. I will only be able to find it if it has a memorial. I do not do to the records office

 I also stumble about other burial sites in North Stafford doing MIs when I have time, again any names let me know and what area. The general area I cover is from Stafford town northwards to the borders of other counties

alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: wrjones on Wednesday 30 January 08 09:21 GMT (UK)

Thanks for your kind offer Alf,and whilst I am not very hopeful,could you please look for the Graves of Daniel Durber who died in 1846,and his son Thomas who died in 1868.

Regards
William Russell jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Sparky53 on Wednesday 30 January 08 12:03 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf

Any Kelsalls in Burslem would be appreciated.

Thanks

Jane

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Wednesday 30 January 08 13:56 GMT (UK)

William & Jane

names noted,

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: wrjones on Wednesday 30 January 08 14:52 GMT (UK)

Thanks Alf.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Sparky53 on Wednesday 30 January 08 15:04 GMT (UK)

Cheers

I think we 3 have met before.

Jane

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: wrjones on Wednesday 30 January 08 15:33 GMT (UK)

Where would that have been Jane?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Sparky53 on Wednesday 30 January 08 15:48 GMT (UK)

You and I have met on the Potteries Mailing list and we have discussed the Lovatts I think.

Alf can often be found on The Great War Forum

Jane

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Wednesday 30 January 08 15:53 GMT (UK)

 

Have a look at this site for MIs
 http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/STS/index.html

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Monday 04 February 08 07:50 GMT (UK)

Hi William & Jane

William, No, Durber found

Jane, I have found the following

Both stones are laid flat. The first inscription the top of the stone has been removed for some reason, and I could not find it

Ann, mother of the above, and wife of Richard Kelsall
died 25 October 1864, age 55
Richard, died 19 April 1871, 67

James Kelsall, 25 February 1828, 60
Jane, his daughter, 8 February 1825, 18
Lydia, wife of Micheal Lewis and d/o James Kelsall
died 2 October 1829, 36
Sarah, w/o James Kelsall, 19 May 1847, 82

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Sparky53 on Monday 04 February 08 08:55 GMT (UK)

Alf - you are a genius.

I don't think Ann & Richard are relatives - I will check them out on the censuses.

However James Kelsall is my 4 x gt grandfather! Could you give me a steer to where the stone is so I can stop by and photograph it on my next trip up to North Wales. Now if only I knew who James's father was.

Cheers

Jane

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Sparky53 on Monday 04 February 08 09:04 GMT (UK)

Richard is one of the fishmonger Kelsalls to whom I haven't been able to establish a link.
Richard and Anne are living in Queen St, Burslem in 1861

Jane

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: wrjones on Monday 04 February 08 12:09 GMT (UK)

Never mind Alf,thanks for looking anyway.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: belmichael64 on Thursday 14 February 08 12:33 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf

I would be grateful if you could look for any graves with the names of podmore or gilbride. i remember visiting them with my mother when i was younger - but i cannot remember their location, i have had a look myself - but no success yet! 

thanks

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Thursday 14 February 08 16:01 GMT (UK)

Hi belmichael64

I have not found any of your names, however there are about 12 that I did not finish and they are laid on the ground by a wall. Also I noted that there are a few that have been damaged and bits are missing they are also on the ground.

I will contact you once the other stones have been checked, these may belong to graves where the bodies have been reinterred at Carmountside when the road was widened and the church car park constructed.

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: belmichael64 on Thursday 14 February 08 16:25 GMT (UK)

Thanks Alf!

 :)

Bel

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: little blue on Monday 25 February 08 17:59 GMT (UK)

Alf
Do you know if there would be any records of the people who were reinterred at Carmountside ?
Cheers
Little Blue

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Monday 25 February 08 21:55 GMT (UK)

Hi Little Blue

I will find out

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: little blue on Tuesday 26 February 08 08:28 GMT (UK)

Thanks Alf.

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Sandra Parker on Tuesday 26 February 08 10:57 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf,
I really appreciate your offer. I would really like to know if there is  any sign of Buckley, Hargreaves and Rathbone families.

Thanks
Sandra   :)

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Thursday 28 February 08 20:26 GMT (UK)

Hi Sandra

Buried at St John The Baptist, Burslem

Jane RATHBONE, d/o
Samuel & Jane RATHBONE
Of Tunstall, 28 November 1817, 12 months
Mary, d, 1 December 1821, 15 months
Also Prudence, d, 9 June 1825, 10yrs & 4 months
Grace, d, 14 September 1829, 17

Samuel RATHBONE, late of Tunfall [Tunsall]
in the parifh of Wolftanton, 30 September 1831, 48
Samuel RATHBONE, s, 20 June 1838, 13
 
No Buckley or Hargreaves found

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: crystal lady on Friday 29 February 08 07:15 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf

I'd be very grateful if you could look out for any by the name of Degg when on your travels as have not been able to find any yet.  They were in the Burslem, Shelton and Wolstanton areas.  Thanks.

Crystal

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Sandra Parker on Friday 29 February 08 07:51 GMT (UK)

Thanks Alf. Not the ones I was hoping for, but Samuel could possibly be the brother of 'my' Joseph. Some families seemed to like a biblical connection!
So will keep the details for later.
Appreciate your time.
Sandra

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Friday 29 February 08 23:19 GMT (UK)

Hi Crystal

I will do that for you,  You may find some in the link

http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/STS/index.html

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: crystal lady on Saturday 01 March 08 07:33 GMT (UK)

Thanks Alf

I'll have alook at the link - they are very elusive!

Crystal

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: sarah1964 on Sunday 16 March 08 14:20 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf

Thank you very much for your kind offer.  Please can you see if there are any Beardmore's or Salt's there. Thanks again

Sarah

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: holden on Sunday 16 March 08 18:12 GMT (UK)

thanks for the offer. i wonder if you have come across Elias hawley died 1828,Tabitha Meir died 1847 or any Tatler family. Best wishes holden

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Sunday 16 March 08 18:45 GMT (UK)

Hi Sarah

Beardmore

Hannah, w/o George BEARDMORE
10 November 1816, 34
George BEARDMORE, s, 27 August 1834, 21
George, above, 7 February 1839, 51
Cathrine [as inscribed] BEARDMORE
relict of above, George BEARDMORE
15 September 1844, 58

That is all I found, no Salt's yet

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: belmichael64 on Tuesday 18 March 08 19:34 GMT (UK)

Thanks Alf

I appreciate your help.

thanks again

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Thursday 20 March 08 17:01 GMT (UK)

Holden

No Hawley of Tatler found and only this Meir

Joseph MEIR, 17 August 1899, 77
Mary Ann, w/o Joseph MEIR
10 February 1833 – 6 May 1920


Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: holden on Thursday 20 March 08 21:37 GMT (UK)

Hello Alf, Thank you for looking, Holden

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Trilobite on Tuesday 25 March 08 12:33 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf,

Please could you have a look to see if there are any people with the surname Hilditch. I have a Hilditch family living in Burslem on the 1841 census, however, the father appears to have then been widowed and 3 of his very young children disappear from future census records?

Any record of Hilditch deaths would be gratefully received.

Regards

Caroline

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Tuesday 25 March 08 14:35 GMT (UK)

Hi Caroline

Sorry no Hilditch at the cemetery, well no headstones found. Have you any names you can give me so I can have a look around

Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: Trilobite on Tuesday 25 March 08 15:08 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf,

Sarah Hilditch died 1846 aged 35 in either Woolstanton or Burslem. The missing children are Eliza born 1834, Henry born 1838 and Hannah born 1840.

Her husband was Thomas Hilditch b. 1814 - who I have traced with his son William to Congleton & later Burnley. I dont know when Thomas and Sarah got married (still on with that one by i assume around 1833.

Thank you

Caroline

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: danielletd on Monday 04 August 08 09:57 BST (UK)

Hi, just found this and wondered if it was too late to ask for information?

If at all possible could you look for an Annie Fisher, Burslem. Not sure when she died exactly but some time after 1915.
Her husband was george fisher.

Thanks,

Danielle

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: alf on Friday 08 August 08 23:59 BST (UK)

Hi Danielle

I have had a look at my data and I did not find a Fisher headstone

Regards
Alf

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: William T on Wednesday 18 March 09 21:09 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf
Found your offer ot look at graves at St. Johns Burslem via a Google search.  If your offer (which is over a year old now) still stands I would be interested in DWYNE OR DWINE and perhaps GARNER LEWIS & PICKERING.

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: William T on Wednesday 18 March 09 21:15 GMT (UK)

Hi Alf
Found your offer to look at graves at St. Johns Burslem via a Google search.  If your offer (which is over a year old now) still stands I would be interested in DWYNE OR DWINE and perhaps GARNER LEWIS & PICKERING.  My Grandparents are buried in Burslem Cemetary, but there parents may be at St. Johns as they were married/baptised there.  I have been to St. Johns but did not have the opportunity to look around for very long.
Just one other question - - is St. Johns Catholic?

Thanks Bill D

Title: Re: Burslem St John the Baptist graveyard
Post by: billdebwhitt on Saturday 19 October 13 23:33 BST (UK)

Dear Alf - I don't know if you are still actively answering queries about this graveyard, but, if so, I'm looking for the burial of the baby daughter of my ancestor James Ambrose Lockett.

Ellen  Lockett
baptised: 11 Sep 1836
buried: 27 Apr 1837

The family maintained membership at St John's until they emigrated to the United States in late 1850.  Thanks so much if you are able to help! 
Debbie