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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: juliebenny on Sunday 27 January 08 06:41 GMT (UK)
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Needing help to confirm marriage between Thomas Low & Helen Miller in maybe June 1822 possibly Perth & birth of children mainly Charles in 1829.
Thanks
Julie
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hi julie
marriage 23rd of june 1822 redgorton perth from the IGI
charles low born 10th december 1829 baptised 20th december 1829
redgorton perthshire again from IGI
is this what you wan't ?
ev
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Many thanks ev, how simple could it be?
Regards
Julie
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Hello juliebenny
Go to www.familysearch.org
Click on the 'Search' facility
On the left hand side of that page click on 'International Geanological Index'
it's under the header 'census'
Enter both parents names.
Under 'event', click for 'birth/ch' , Year '1830' and under 'range ' put in '+/-10' years.
Fill in Region and country - brings up a total of 24 entries - a mixture of submitted and extracted entries - some doubles. Over to you to trawl through. Good luck :O)
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Thanks piglet but I must be doing something wrong, I don't get what you get! I'll keep trying.
Regards
Julie
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http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_IGI.asp?indid=&spouse_id=&color=blue
put father and mothers name in top right hand side
then EVENT - birth/christening
REGION - british isles
COUNTRY - scotland
COUNTY - perth
then SEARCH
if you put fathers name in first box , then mothers name underneath
select marriage in event box , then select british isles , scotland , perth then search
this should give you the marriage
ev
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Hi JulieBenny
I've been researching my Low family tree (see my previous message if you're interested in the details).
Anyway - while looking through the MIs in Perthshire booklet, I found the following info from Redgorton Cemetery. These are copies of my notes:
Plot 42 by Thos.Low and Helen Miller at Downhill, son Peter died 24th January (no year)
Plot 43 Thomas Low - ill of crown over hand grasping hammer and crossed keys (perhaps for a locksmith?)
Plot 44 winged soul. Thomas Low Sept 1713 2 years
Plot 45 pedestal by William Low merchant in Dunkeld in memory of daughter Helen Millar 23 November 1852, 2 years
(all at left hand rear of church)
I visited Redgorton recently as well as Moneydie cemetery and the graves at Luncarty. I haven't found my own immediate ancestors but a lot with same names and similar occupations so I assume they may be related vaguely.
All the best
Sarah
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Hi Sarah
sorry for the really late reply but we've been renovating and this was all put away. The trip sounds great. Are there any sites for MI's to look up as I'm struggling to get any Scottish info at all in particular Redgorton and Perthshire. I would be very interested in your description of Redgorton and the cemetery if you don't mind.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers
Julie
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Hi Juliebenny
Nice to hear from you. I've been busy with other things and not done much family history recently but I have a fair bit on file that might be useful to you depending on how closely our family's connect.
As far as I know the MIs are not available online. I got them from some booklets in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. All the booklets were compiled by local family history groups a while back and don't seem to be available electronically.
I visited the cemeteries a couple of years back and had taken some notes. Also some photos but I'm not sure if I kept them, will have to check. The booklets were great for checking what I thought I could read as a lot of the gravestones are worn away and difficult to read.
I am planning, when I have some spare time, to go to Perth and visit the A K Bell Library to find out if they have some local documents that I can't get via the web or in Glasgow.
It would be interesting to swap information to see if we can find a link between the families. I have my family tree on Genes Reunited website - you don't by any chance use that as well, do you? If not I could export it and send it to you. If you think that would be a good idea, send me a private message with your email address and I'll forward some info to you.
Redgorton was the parish for that area. These days it's a small rural village, Moneydie is a very pretty hamlet and Luncarty an expanding, fairly large village on the outskirts of Perth. My grandfather was called William Low and he was born at Down Hill to the north of Luncarty. In previous times it was a coaching inn serving the main road to and from the Highlands. The motorway now bypasses it but you can still see how it would have been an important place for drovers and other travellers to stop, eat, sleep and take care of their horses. My grandfathers family seem to have been blacksmiths, joiners etc. I don't know if they owned the inn or were employees but they were there from the 1800s right up to at least 1905.
Anyway, all the best with your research and get in touch if you want to investigate any connection further.
Sarah
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Hi Sarah,
I have just stumbled across this old post, so hopefully you are still around and pick this up...
I have only recently returned to exploring my ancestry (after a 25 year gap!). My gg-grandfather, Charles Miller Lowe/Low, emigrated to Australia in 1854 (part of the 1850's goldrush!) and then married 4 years later. His marriage certificate shows his parents as Thomas Lowe and Helen Miller, and the immigration/shipping records show him coming from Perthshire, and being born in 1829. I am therefore confident that he is this Charles Low - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1KL-S45 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1KL-S45) (with the change from "Low" to "Lowe" being fairly typical).
This would also make him the Charles Low shown in the 1841 census, living at Downhill as an 11 year old - hence my interest in your mention of Low and Down Hill. Are you still exploring this branch? And would you be willing to share any details you might have regarding this family.
Thanks for any help!
David
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Hi David. I've got some information on the family that I'd be happy to share. Can you PM me? We can swap emails and I can send you copies of what I have. Whether either of us have got any further back than the other is unlikely but we may be able to keep in touch and share progress.
Sarah
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Hello, after a Google search I have just found this old thread and joined up! Having moved into a house at downhill which I think may be the one you've been discussing, I'd be really interested to hear any related history of anyone is happy to share?
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Hi Toothfairy25,
Thanks for the message. It would indeed be fascinating if you had indeed moved into the house where my gg-grandfather was born, and where his family lived in the 1820-1850's.
My ggg-grandparents were Thomas Low and Helen Miller. Their children were William (1824), Maria (1826), Margaret (1828), Charles (1829 - my ancestor), Peter (1832, died), Helen (1834), and Peter (1837).
The 1841 census shows the family (parents and 6 children) living at Downhill, in the Parish of Redgorton. Thomas is listed as a 50yo Innkeeper. At the same address is a separate household of Alexander (25yo, Blacksmith apprentice) and Margaret (25yo) Low – possibly a half-brother from an earlier marriage?
Charles emigrated to Australia in the early 1850's (probably after his mother Helen died, as the 1851 census shows Thomas now married to Christina, but still living at Downhill). An 1853 newspaper article indicates that Thomas was still at Downhill, though articles in 1854 and 1855 indicate that he may not have been there anymore.
The actual house can be seen at https://goo.gl/maps/VrSsaQdv6cB2. Is the one where you are now living?
There is also some information at http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-17923-luncarty-post-office-downhill-redgorton#.VsjxNZx94a4 and https://canmore.org.uk/site/27010/luncarty-downhill-the-arns
Some other information from an online discussion forum states:
"What i can tell you Downhill was originally named Dome-hill regarding the hill behind the houses and as village rumour goes it was once the site of an ancient settlement, when they were building up the banks for the railway seemingly a skeleton was found which they think dated 100s of years old, the local vicar was informed who ordered the bones to be put back into the soil. Round the corner from Downhill (through the Bridges) you had the old Ordie shuttle mill that made the thread shuttles for the surrounding textile mills, this dated back to the 1800s.The big white house as we called it at Downhill was once the local shop (i dont have the dates handy just now but could soon find out) footnote to say that house has been on the property market for about 5 years, only pic i can find attached.
A subsequent 1857 record for Downhill describes it as:
"Downhill: A neat dwellinghouse, and suitable offices, the former two storeys the latter one, all slated and in good repair also a smithy and dwelling property and residence of Mr Thomas Law, (Ordnance Survey Name Books, OS1/25/71/28)"
If you PM me with your email address I would be happy to share whatever other information I have.
All the best,
David
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Thank you very much for your reply- that's fascinating! That is indeed the house we live in!
The house was previously an inn (still with 'maid's quarters'- now our attic) and what is now our dining room was the local post office, and there was a shop in the garden at one point too. I have some photos I can send to you, and would love to know more about it - I just have to work out how to send a pm to you with my email address! (On my phone at the minute so it's not the easiest!)
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Just found your replies. How exciting to reside in the house of our ancestors. I also would be extremely interested in any information. I do not have a lot on them but happy to share.
Cheers
Julie
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Hi Alexander and Margaret Low from 1841 census are my ggg grandparents. I am having a problem finding out about the Low family in Downhill. Alexander appears to have been born there. I have found two birth certificates about the same time, one has John low and Eliza Scott as parents and the other has just Thomas Low as father and no mother. Has anyone any idea about that? I have some photos a gravestones from luncarty with Lows on them. Peter Low blacksmith Pittendinie, died 1874. Not sure where he fits in with me yet but must be a link somewhere. Any info on the Lows would be appreciated. Kind regards Katy Day. Researching Mccourtie/Low.