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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: lesleyhannah on Friday 25 January 08 16:44 GMT (UK)
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I'm coming back to something that's puzzled me for some time.
I have a birth certificate for Emily Darling, born in Scarborough December 1838. Her mother is Jane Darling from Scarborough. there is no father mentioned.
This may well be part of my family, but I would like to find Jane and/or Emily after 1838. I can't find them together in 1841 or later, nor can I find a Scarborough death for Emily.
I'd be grateful for another pair of eyes - Emily can't have vanished into thin air. Maybe I'm missing an obscure mistranscription, so any suggestions will be welcome.
Thanks
Lesley
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Don't know if this will help
IGI
Christening
Emily Darling
13 Dec 1838 Scarborough
Mother Jane Darling
Christening
Jane Darling
12 April 1820
Scalby nr Scarborough
Parents
Thomas/Fanny Darling
Suz
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Thanks, Suz
This is actually my puzzle. Tom and Fanny Darling are my 4x-great-grandparents. I had seen this birth of a Jane, but cannot find anything about her apart from this. I suspect that Emily is her daughter - but would like to find something to validate this.
Tom & Fanny also had a son Thomas, born c1817 (my 3xg-grandfather) who married a Jane Smith - so she is also a Jane Darling (born about 1817). It is unlikely that Emily was her daughter, as this Jane's other children all mention the father, Thomas.
Jane and Emily can't have vanished into thin air - at the very least there should be a death certificate. Better still would be a marriage certificate or a census return showing the couple.
I come back to this puzzle every year, hoping a fresh look will reveal something new, but I'm beginning to think this is an indestructible brick wall.
Thanks again, and any other suggestions gratefully received.
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Was Emily's baptism at St Mary's scarborough? If so I can have a look at the transcripts in Scarborough Library sometime this week for you and see if there are any clues as to where she went!
Emma
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That's very kind of you, Emma. If she is part of my Darlings, I expect she would have been baptised in Scarborough. I have her birth certificate, that just has Scarborough on (no address - probably because it was 1839). My branch of the family did emigrate to Hull, but most stayed in Scarborough.
An obvious answer would be that between Emily's birth in 1839 and the census in 1841, Jane could have married - but I've been through the indexes and can't find a marriage. If either Jane or Emily had died, you would expect to find a death certificate, but again I can't. I've looked on ancestry and findmypast (in case it was a mistranscription) but there's nothing.
I'll be very grateful indeed if you can find anything at all - and thank you again for your generous offer.
Lesley
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I will have a look next time im in, could be wednesday not sure yet but as soon as Ive been Ill post back!
Fingers crossed!!
Emma
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Thanks again Emma.
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Well, a death cert arrived this morning - solving one mystery, but creating another.
Little Emily Darling died in April 1841 (therefore, before the 1841 census) aged 2, of scarlet fever. Jane Darling, her mother, a spinster, was the informant.
Therefore Jane SHOULD be on the 1841 census - so where is she? The address given on Emily's death certificate is Green Man (??) Yard, Market Place, New Malton. The registration district on the cert is Malton. Emily died in the parish of St Michael New Malton.
I imagine the reason I can't find Jane is due to a mistranscription, but even taking off the 'exact spelling' button I haven't been able to find Jane in 1841. Although there are a number of deaths for Jane Darlings in 1841, none is in the right area.
Any help will be appreciated.
Lesley
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Hi Lesley,
When searching for Jane darling , try changing the first letter of her surname eg Carling or Parling.
This worked for me after searching for a Peel he was mistranscribed as Neel.
Good luck,
Peely.
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i'll give it a try, Peely, although I did try just putting the first name and place/date of birth, without success. She MUST be there somewhere - I'm sure we've all said this!
Will let you know if it works - so thanks for the suggestion.
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Jane's sister Hannah age 30 is in Malton for the 1841 census and there is a Jane Child age 20 at the same address (HO107/1264/3 fol 9 page 10, the address looks like Yorkersgate). Could the surname "Child" be a freudian mistranscription? I've not checked to see if she pops up in 1851, or looked for a baptism, but if there's no other trace of her then perhaps she's your Jane.
I don't have any of the other Malton pages for 1841 (only downloaded the one of interest) but have you tried trawling through them?
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Thanks for that familydar. I hadn't seen Hannah before. I'll try to follow her up - at least I know she's not married before 1841, which is a plus. So far I haven't been able to find a marriage for her after that date - but have found a death in Scarborough for a Hannah, which may be her.
Jane however remains elusive. I've already tried a first name/Malton search for Jane,without luck. Your Jane Child idea is interesting, it could be a pseudonym, but there are quite a few Jane Childs in the county. I will follow it up. It wouldn't be the first time one of my relatives has used a alias!
Will let you know if I get any further, and thanks again for your help.
Lesley