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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: FloppyDavis on Thursday 17 January 08 19:37 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to find what happened to two twin boys. I think I traced them to the Infant Orphan Asylum, Wanstead Essex. There names were Harry Scholar Warner and Frank Scholar Warner. I got this information from the 1891 census . What I am trying to connect is the name of their parents. If I am on the right track their father was Frederick Warner who died in December 1885. Is there any way to check the records of The Orphan Asylum to see who the boys parents were.
Tom
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Hi Tom
According to The National Archives http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
the Yearbooks and documents are held at Ilford....
http://www.redbridge.gov.uk/cms/education__learning/libraries/local_studies_and_archives.aspx
They should be able to help you locate surviving admission registers etc
Sarah :)
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Hi Tom,
The records that the local studies library at Ilford have on Wanstead Infant Orphan Asylum are very informative but you do need to contact them first as you can't just turn up and see them. You should get names of parents, possibly grandparents as well, and dates and places of marriage etc.
Good luck
Sarah
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Hello Tom
Did you have any luck with records? I am trying 2 prove that 2 boys that were there in 1871 were who I think they were.
Do you have any advice? And how did children get there - I can't place their mother anywhere near?
Regards
Jan
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Hi
The current links are
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=090-9021&cid=0#0
and
http://www.redbridge.gov.uk/cms/leisure_and_libraries/culture/local_history_and_heritage/local_studies_and_archive.aspx
Regards
Valda
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Is there any way of viewing these online? I am in Spain and a bit of a distance to travel. Sue
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Hi
Though a really large amount of standard records are online - parish registers, censuses, passenger lists, some military service records and wills in particular, the vast majority of records held in record offices are not online and in the case of an archives like The National Archives with over 100 miles of shelved records not even indexed, though millions of records have been so far. It costs into the millions to get these records online, digitalised and indexed and is mostly done by subscription websites, so they go for the more popular records that will give them a return for the investment they make.
You need to contact Redbridge archives. Link given.
Regards
Valda
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Many thanks will try the links. Sue
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I know floppydavis has not been online since January but out of interest just played with the request anyway. As was said in 1st post they do appear in 1891 census together aged 10. It would appear they are twins born March q 1881 Eastry 2a 977-both appear with this registration. One or other birth cert would record parents names, mmn and address. Also on this census are 3 other Warner children-coincidence. Finally there is a death in Dec q 1885 Eastry 2a 551 of a Frederick Warner aged 55.
John
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Just a bit more should floppydavis come back. The family appear on 1881 census with father Frederick 50. mother Emily 40(born Deal) Charles A age 1 and twins Harry/Frank, also a step daughter Ellen Bates aged 15. Frederick Warner married Emily Winifred Bates 17.4.1879 St Stephen City of London. Frederick widower,occ was a pilot, father Charles Warner occ pilot. Edith's-widow- father was James Fitch-grocer. By 1891 Emily is with 2 other EdithM aged 7 and Albert 6 and is a widow again. Strong chance that Harry and Frank are the 2 recorded in the orfanage.
John