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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Anglesey => Topic started by: clematised on Thursday 17 January 08 00:50 GMT (UK)
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I am confused that these places mentioned in the subject heading are all the same place or are the seperate and if seperate are they all in the same area and how far apart.
My gt grandfather was born here as far as I can gather from the censuses.
Thanks for any info supplied
Edna
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I have just answered my own question by looking them all up on google earth and they are all very close and Maelog seems to be in the picture with Rhosneigr and Llanfaelog further inland but close by and I was also looking for the distance from here to TyCroes which is also close by.
I often get people on Genes giving the Welsh place names and not sure to answer or not but now it is all so much clearer to me.
Edna
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TY CROES is about 1-2 miles from Rhosneigr
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Thank you that ties in with family stories so is a great help
Edna
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Do you come from this area or close family i used to live nearby
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I am in Southport Merseyside but my ancestors came from Maelog /Llanfaelog/Rhosnegir born William Williams 1790s and son Richard born 1821 both Joiners and lived at Lower Mountain Row in 1851 census with their respective families and later could be Floresse street Hollyhead in 1861 and my grandfather Richard Williams b1842 born Hollyhead later moved to Liverpool and then Bootle where he remained for the rest of his life.
My father Thomas Owen Williams was born Bootle 1891 and I have had the most difficult time doing this research and only found this line with help from friends I have found on Here and the BBC family history Board
It has been a long time in unfurling this family and I am now familiar with the area thanks to Google Earth.
I am told that we have a family called Griffith from TyCroes that an old lady in her 90s used to visit by train from here when she was a young girl and can remember walking from the station up the hill to a house where the Griffiths family lived but its difficult getting information as she is the mother of my genes contact and she is my cousin who lives locally to me but I have not yet met.
Sorry to be long winded in answering your question but you now have the answer.
Thank you for your interest
Edna
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Hi Edna
My maternal Grandmother was Annie Griffith and her family also came from Llanfaelog, Rhosneigr area. My Great Aunt also lived in Bryn Du which is just down the road from Ty Croes. I was brought up in Ty Croes - Maes Cynlas but moved to York when I was 5.
What details do you have for the Griffith family which is linked to your family?
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Hello Carol
I am sure I sent a copy of a burial cert to your e mail earlier this year. do you now live in Blackpool if so I think we had a PM conversation about Ty Croes
I will take a look at it and get back to you
Edna
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Hi Edna Yes it is me - my Pc crashed a couple of times earlier this year and I lost quite a few things - including Family Tree though luckily I had just done a backup the first time.
Back to normal now if you can call it that lol
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Clematised,
I saw your posting about Llanfaelog/Rhosneigr and realised we are probably related. My great great grandmother's name was Elinor/Eleanor and she was born in Rhosneigr in 1836. Her father's name was William Williams a joiner who moved to Holyhead in around 1850. Your grandfather must have been her brother. Do you know anything about the family in Rhosneigr/Llanfaelog/Maelog? My great great grandmother lived the rest of her life in Holyhead and had 14 children, married to man called Owen Owens.
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I have to go out soon and will be back late tonight .
I do not have a lot of information but anything that we can help each other with could be good for both of us.
I would like to PM to you but you must post three messages on the rootschat board before you can get your PMs Private messages that we can send to each other so add a couple meore messages on this thread and that should be fine as I see this is your first post.
Edna
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Hello again Clematise
Tracking down my great great grandmother has been real detective work! I knew from grandmother that she came Rhosneigr to Holyhead when she was 14 and was married by her 17th birthday. But I didn't know her maiden name and didn't realise that Rhosneigr was Llanfaelog. So I looked up all 5 Rhosneigr Elinors/Eleanors in the 1841 Anglesey census and found the one that was in Holyhead in 1851.
Once I found William Williams was a joiner it all fell into place. We still have a chair and a chest of drawers made by him in my family.
Elinor appears to have been one of 8 children:
Richard 1821, John 1826, Elizabeth 1825, William 1828, Peter 1830, Hugh 1834, Elinor 1836, Thomas 1837. Their parents were Elizabeth and William Williams, both born in the late 1790s.
I was interested to read about the lady that's surname was Griffith. A maternal relative perhaps?
Elinor died in 1926, having had 14 children and 3 husbands. I have a picture of her in the 1880s but none of her siblings.
Look forward to hearing from you. By my calculation you must count as a 3rd cousin of my late father's.
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I think I found William and Elizabeth Williams on the 1871 census living by themselves and with William still shown as a joiner.
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Hello again Selly Oak
I have sent you a couple of PMs but it was difficult to put too much info on them so I have sent you mu e mail address.
Edna
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Hello Selly Oak and Clematised,
I joined this forum after Googling Rhosneigr and William Williams, and immediately saw that this thread was about people from my tree.
I'd be grateful if either of the two of you would reply. I know it's a long time since the original discussion, but I believe at least one of you may still be posting on these boards.
Thanks,
Phil
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Hello Phil,
Its been a while since I looked at the tree but what would you like to know.
You need to post three messages on the board before you can use the PM system (personal message)
Edna
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Hello Edna, thanks for replying.
Well, I already learned a couple of things from this thread - the 1841 and 1851 census entries for Ellinor Williams and family, so thanks for that.
My direct ancestor was Hannah Owen(s), sister of the Owen Owen(s) who married Ellinor Williams. Their daughter, Elizabeth Owen, married John Thomas and moved to Ashton in Makerfield. She was a cousin of my great grandmother, Jane Owen, who also moved to AinM. A lot of Owen and Owens names! Many Owens also married unrelated Owens to add to the confusion.
What I have never found is a correct census entry for Owen Owen and Ellinor in 1871. Owen died in 1879, according to Holyhead parish records, and as you know Ellinor had two further husbands. An elderly relative of the Owen-Thomas family originally told me some of his ancestors came from Rhosneigr and were involved in running a pub, called, he said the Blue Bell?
I wondered if you had got any further back than William Williams, father of Ellinor? I found a baptism for Ellinor on the LDS site, but it's not possible to pick out the correct marriage for her parents.
The furthest I have got back with the Owen Owens link is his father and mother, Richard Owen/Hannah Jones, who were born around 1800 and married in 1820 at Llanfaes, near Beaumaris, where all their children, including Hannah and Owen, were born.
Sorry to ramble on, and I'd be glad to hear if you can help with any of this.
Cheers,
Phil
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I will try and make contact with Selly Oak later today as he has a really good tree, I don't have what he has as I just do direct lines so I will see if he can help you further.
There is a book about the area with photo's which has been posted on this site before by the Author so try finding it in the search box under Rhosneigr, also post one or two more messages so you can then be contacted by PM
Edna
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OK thanks, will do...
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I have contacted Selly Oak and he will get back to you when he has time.
Edna
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Do any of you have any of these in your family history please:
Rowland Williams born 1855 in Llangaffo, Nr Gaerwen, Isle of Anglesey
married
Jane Jones born 1858 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Children all born Llanfaelog, Hollyhead
Thomas c1881
Mary c1883
Margaret (AKA Maggie & Meg) c1885 married ??? Jones - became life long friend with Rowland's wife
Grace c1889
Joseph c1891 Died WW1
Rowland c1892 Died WW1 - married my husband's grandmother
William Arthur c1895
Jane Ellen c1899
The family lived at Caer Llyn and Rowland snr was a Game Keeper later working as a Porter along with sons Rowland & William at what is believed to be Lake Maelog Hotel, where in fact Rowland's wife also worked and so did his sister Margaret.
Rowland's snr's mother was called Mary Williams c1835 Llanfaelog, I don't know her maiden name or who her husband was ??? Williams.
After Rowland's jnr's death his widow, at some point, left Anglesey for York, England, married some years later and had children, so information regarding Rowland's family is sketchy.
I do have the census information for this family and info about Rowland & Joseph's deaths but nothing else, can anyone help please.
Regards
bendywendy