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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Carley on Wednesday 16 January 08 06:47 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone know what documentation had to be provided prior to migration to Australia from London.
William and Ethel KEABLE sailed to Australia 1912 on "Zealandic" from London to Sydney.
2 children sailed with them shown as Dorothy May KEABLE aged 4
William KEABLE Jnr aged 15.
I cannot find a birth record for either after searching myself and also enlisting the services of a paid researcher. Any advice appreciated. Carley
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Hi Carley
I think this might be them on the 1901 Census
5 Crystal Terrace Croydon
William Keeble Aged 25yrs,Labourer born Croydon
Ethel Keeble aged 20yrs ,wife,Ironer born Lambeth
William Keeble aged 5yrs born Lambeth
Annie
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Just linking some previous posts on this topic
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,149484.msg685317.html#msg685317
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,153058.msg708152.html#msg708152
To save duplicate searching.
Cando
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Message deleted
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Thank you all for your replies. I have the other info but cannot find the births for William Jnr or Dorothy.
I wondered whether a birth certificate had to be supplied in UK with their application to migrate. William Jnr was born in 1896 in Lambeth (2 years before parents marriage). Dorothy was born in 1908 supposedly in Croydon.
I was thinking that if birth certificate copies were furnished with travel application, then it might be an idea to check in that area. Does anybody know? Wish Census 1911 was out!! Carley
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Hi
Could this be her birth -right area
Dec Qtr 1907
Keeble Dorothy May Camberwell 1d 918
Annie
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Oh well spotted Annie
why pay a researcher when there is Rootchatters :D
kind regards JEnn
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Great question Carley. ;)
Does anyone know what documentation had to be provided prior to migration to Australia from London.
I would also like to know if you had to complete a questionnaire which was then "approved" (or rejected) and what information did it contain. Or did British migrants simply buy a ticket and arrive and take up residency. My G Grandmother also came to Melbourne in 1912 with two teenage boys, my Grandfather and Granduncle.
Cheers, Red
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William Jnr was born in 1896 in Lambeth (2 years before parents marriage).
If William was born before the parents were married he would probably have been registered under his mother's maiden name.
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According to FreeBDM, A William Keable married a Ethel Reid in 1898, Croyden, Q4 2a 546,
Also in Croyden, a William Reid, born 1896, Q1, 2a 282
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Woops - all this info has been found before - on the links to previous threads posted on Reply #2.
Cheers
cando
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So sorry, I did not mean my question to cover old territory. The Camberwell Dorothy is not her as I bought the certificate, thanks Annie.
I just wondered what information that prospective Emigrants had to provide to the authorities before being accepted to sail to Australia. I was hoping that if this was so, the information may help answer a few questions on the family. I feel pretty sure they would have had financial assistance to come here.
I very much appreciate your replies and thank everyone so much for that.
Kind regards, Carley
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Hi Carley
Do you have either the marriage certificate and/or the death certificate for Dorothy May? If so, do they name William & Ethel as her parents?
Andy
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Hi Andy, yes the Marriage Certificate does, however on the death certificate of Ethel Keable, Dorothy is not shown as her child. The information provided by Ethel's husband William Keable.
The death certificate for Dorothy quotes Ethel and William as her parents.
She has proven a real puzzle to tie in and that is why I had this idea of what info would have been provided to Emigrate....also where the records might be...if there are any.
Regards, Carley
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Hi Carley
It might be a case of waiting for the 1911 census to see if that sheds any light. I suspect that Ethel was not Dorothy May's natural mother and that her birth was registered under a different surname, but who knows what.
Andy
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Thank you Andy, I think I will have to wait for 1911 census as well.
Thank you as well to everyone for their input it is much appreciated.
Regards all, Carley
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Does anyone know what documentation had to be provided prior to migration to Australia from London.
As far as I can tell very little information, if any, was collected on departure. It seems that it was an arrangement with the shipping agent and sponsors in Australia.
Recorded detail seems only to exist on arrival in Australia. For example NSW public record searches.
John
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Thank you John, I am most grateful for that and I will follow the line of enquiry up.
I felt that certain details would need to have been supplied somewhere when families were migrating but had no idea where that would be. It is even better when it might be in our own Australian records.
Kind regards and thanks again from Carley.
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Carley
You should do a search of the NSW BDM listings. There is a marriage for a Dorothy at Kogorah and 2 deaths for Williams in the same area. It should make sense to you if you don't already know.
John
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Thanks John. They are the correct family and I have those certificates.
I have now sent off a request for further information on their Immigration and keep fingers crossed that there might be something there to give a lead on the birth of Dorothy KEABLE. If her birth date is correct, she left London the day before her 4th birthday in 1912.
Many thanks for your suggestions.
Kind regards from Carley