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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Caernarvonshire => Topic started by: hiraeth on Tuesday 15 January 08 14:05 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for graves of several relatives who lived in Hirael and died in Bangor from 1839 to 1884. I believe they were Church of Wales as marriages and baptisms were all at the Cathedral Church of Bangor. Can anyone help with locations of likely cemetaries for this area?
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The cemetaries in or very near Bangor are:
Glanadda cemetary which is on Caernarvon Road and is very large (I have about half this cemetary recorded in photos)
Llandegai Cemetary, in Llandegai Village (right next to Penrhyn Castle)
There is also the Crematorium on the A5 road into Bangor.
If you post your relatives names I will look through my photos or you may email me. If I do have the headstones then plesae say if you want me to send photos to you direct or if its OK for me to post them on this board.
Mervyn
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Hi Mervyn
Thank you for the information and very kind offer. This is what I have so far:
Hugh DAVIES - c1803 - October 3, 1839 occ. blockmaker per 1828 trade directory,
place of birth unknown (my major brickwall....no sign of him in Bangor baptisms - just having a date of birth would be an enormous help for checking possible places of birth - long distance research at Caernarfon Record Office is very expensive!)
father of John (c1831), David (my G-GF bap Jan 11, 1833), Thomas (c1834), Hugh (c1836) & Margaret (born Aug 18, 1837)
John ROBERTS c1775 - December 28, 1842 occ. sawyer/timber merchant, owner of 9 houses according to will - pob born in county per 1841 census of Hirael
Ellinor ROBERTS c1774 - October 19, 1851 widow of John, pob Denbighshire per 1851 census
parents of Susan, Mary, Ellinor, Elizabeth, John, David & Thomas
Elizabeth JONES bap. Bangor Feb 25, 1809 - May 11, 1884 dau of John & Ellinor, widow of Hugh 1stly (mar 1830), and 2ndly (mar 1847) Captain James JONES c1792 Aberystwith - Dec 2, 1870 occ mariner (retired/pensioned 1852 per Reg Davies Welsh Mariners website)/blockmaker per later trade directories)
Re posting of photos versus email - whichever is easier or more convenient for you is fine by me - just grateful to find them if possible. I would gladly order MIs for Llandygai and Gelli in Bethesda as three quarters of my ancestors are buried there but Gwynedd FHS will not mail them in booklet format overseas and I do not own or have access to a microfiche reader. Do you know if MIs for Glanadda have been recorded anywhere?
Heather (Vancouver)
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I have about 190 photos and at a rough estimate there are 400 to 450 headstones still standing, many are unreadable. Oldest of the headstones I have are 1864 but there are older ones nearer the road.
None of the names you have given are showing.
I have a few photos of Gelli cemetary but haven't checked those yet. I do intend to complete both these cemetaries but the weather has been really damp over the Christmas period.
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There are three photos of Gelli cemetary (Church is called St. Mary's) in the following link
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2841146710038257023NjtfuZ?vhost=home-and-garden
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Hi Mervyn
Thank you very much for checking the photos you have of Glanadda. None of the names I gave you would appear in Gelli (other side of the family tree!). It's nice to see the pics of St Mary's as my grandmother was buried there in 1968.
Best wishes
Heather
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Mrevyn.
I wonder if I can ask for a favour.
I have found an ancestor, Rachell Woodward Fox, who was buried in Glanadda cemetry on 14/11/1871. This information was obtained rfom the registers deposited in the archives in Caernarfon - the registers give the grave number as 493. She was the wife of John Parker Fox, pawnbroker of 360 High St. Bangor. He however, with their children, moved away from the area quite soon after Rachell's death.
Rachell died following childbirth and an un-named day old son is recorded in the registers as being buried in Glanadda on 7/11/1871.
I went to Glanadda yesterdayand had a look around the area where graves from that period seemed to be but couldn't see a gravestone for Rachell. It was however pouring with rain at the time and I didn't hang around for very long.
Do your records show a gravestone for Rachell?
Iwan
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Hi Iwan, I will look tomorrow through my photos (or today as it is late). I have been through these photos 30 or 40 times now and can't recall seeing the name Fox. The 1871 date suggests to me that your ancestor is in the area to the south west corner nearest the road which is the area I have yet to cover.
Mervyn
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Thanks for the response. If you do find it i'll be very grateful.
Iwan
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I've looked at my photos but the surname Fox doesn't occur in any of them. If you have the plot number then you should be able to find out where approximately the grave is. I innitially thought it may be in St. Davids Church across the road but thinking about it you would either have to get in touch with the Bangor Registrar or maybe the Crematorium which I think holds the records. Maybe someone will correct me on that.
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Thanks.
I've seen the original burial register - it's in the County archives in Caernarfon. The entry for Rachel Fox does include a grave number - 493. Would that match up to a plan or map of the cemetry? I didn't think of looking for such a document in the archives.
Does anyone know if the Gwynedd Family History Soc. has recorded this Cemetry? I cannot see it on their site but I don't know how often the site is updated.
Iwan
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The cemetary is still used for burials so the map and or plan is more likely to be in the hands of whoever allocates the burial plots.
The registrar for Bangor is below
Town Hall, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 2RE
Tel +44 (0)1248 362418
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Thanks for that. I'll try and follow it up in the next few days.
Iwan