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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Ninian on Monday 14 January 08 15:21 GMT (UK)
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I'm trying to find out where my relative John Bardsley might be buried. He was from England but was in New York singing with the Century Opera Company when he caught pneumonia and died on 6 April 1916.
His obituary notice said: "Fureral service from the chapel at 2478 Broadway on Friday 8 April" Not much to go on; I don't know where to start finding out where he might be buried. Can anyone help please?
Ninian
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Do you know his religion? That would narrow the choices.
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The death certificate should say where he was buried. The certificate number is 10977 in Manhattan. Here is a link for a form to order the certficiate:
http://www.italiangen.org/NYC_Death_Form.htm
Kath
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Kath is right - my proposed route is way too circuitous!
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Wonderful, thank you so much. Its interesting that the US puts place of burial on the death certif - it's a pity the UK doesn't too, it would save a lot of hunting.
Excuse my ignorance but how do I go about getting $10 to them and what do I do about the stamp re the stamp addressed envelope? - can I just send them $11 (or $12?)??
Ninian
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That's a good question, and I am not sure. I think you might need to go to the bank and get a check in American dollars. Or can you send a credit card? Probably not. and I think the post office can help with the stamp.
Ian, do you know?
Kath
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I don't know about overseas ordering, but maybe you could send an email?
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/contact/archives.shtml
I feel like the topic has been discussed somewhere on Rootchat - might be worth a search...
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You can order online with a credit card
http://www.nyc.gov/dorforms/deathcert.jsp
Geoff
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There's a photograph and a bit of information about him here:
www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2001/june01/hatchard.htm
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Many thanks to everyone - really helpful. I shall send off the order now.
Ninian
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Hello aghadowey
Have read the article noe. There is quite a bit about him and the photo is good too - it has enlarged really well. Many thanks
Ninian
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John Bardsley was my grandfather.He is buried in a church graveyard in Worsley/ Walkden ,near Bolten in Lancs in England. I haven't been there is decades,so don't know if it still exists.It is an Anglican church. What do you want to know?I can't really see how you could be related.
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As I said he is only a distant relative - my grandfather's mother was a Bardsley and my grandfather knew John. I only knew of John's existence as my grandfather kept a newspaper cutting about his death. I'd assumed as John and family were living in New York when he died that he would have been buried there, so it is quite a surprise to hear that his body was taken home to Walkden.
I understand his wife was Mary Ann Howarth and they had 3 children: John, Mary (Mollie) and James. The Bardsley family are quite interesting and I have quite a bit of info about them but I often wondered what happened to John's wife and children after he died so young. Had he lived he would no doubt have become even more famous. As far as I know my branch of the Bardsley family lost contact with John's immediate family after his death so I'd be grateful for any info you have about John and especially his family after his death.
Ninian