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Title: Edward HARRIS - Seaman
Post by: lillyB on Saturday 05 January 08 05:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone
I am looking for the death of a  Edward Harris born in Denbury Devon in 1796.
What I know is -
Parents - John and Mary Harris
Married in 1829 to Ann Petherick in Denbury Devon
Children born 1830 and 1835
Not in 1841 Census - What I am thinking is that he died at sea  between 1835 and 1841 - But I don't know how to research Deaths at sea in this time period.
(I have looked at all the death records from 1835-1851 in Newton Abbott for a Edward Harris and none of this are my Edward)
could someone please point me in the right direction?
Kind Regards
lillyB
Title: Re: Edward HARRIS - Seaman
Post by: Christopher on Monday 11 February 08 01:45 GMT (UK)
Hello Lillyb,

The Family Records Centre (FRC) website has a page about Deaths at Sea. The Centre holds indexes to records of births and deaths at sea from 1837. These 'Marine Registers' can be found in Section C on the First Floor of the FRC. The GRO website has a full list
of their holdings. www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/research/bmdatsea.htm

Christopher
Title: Re: Edward HARRIS - Seaman
Post by: skeates on Wednesday 09 December 15 06:33 GMT (UK)
details of his son:
John Petherick HARRIS was born in Denbury 1830, son of Edward, a seaman and Ann

Marriage: 9/2/1869
John Harris widower Colour Sgt 82nd Reg Foot (Father Edward Harris - seaman)  Marries Mary Ann Hodgson spinster (Father James Hodgson Sgt Major - 82nd Reg Foot) at (Prescot) St Helens Lancaster.
The Wedding Banns 1/2/1829 at St. Mary the Virgin, Denbury Banns Number 22, Minister: John Bradford. Mentions that both are “sojournes in this Parish”
CENSUS RECORDS:
1871 Census: Verne Citadel Barracks, Isle of Portland, Weymouth Dorset
John 40 Sgt Army born Exeter, Mary Ann 25 born (Toronto) Canada West. James Edward 1 Born Aldershot Hants John Hodgson Harris Son M 0  Portland, Dorsetshire.

1881 Census: 89 Temple Street, Manchester JP Harris 50 Drill master and Provision dealer (Born Denbury Devon), Hannah 35 ( Born Maccelsfield Cheshire) , James son 11 born Aldershot, Hamp.

1891 Census:  174 Strand Street, Shaldon, Ashburton John P. Harris Army pensioner (Born Denbury Devon) Hannah (45 Born Maccelsfield)

1901 Census: 61 Dagman Street, Shaldon Devon JP Harris 70 Army Pensioner born Denbury, Devonshire, Hannah 56 (wife) born Macclesfield Cheshire

PROBATE:

Harris John Petherick of Dagmar-villa, Shaldon Devonshire army pensioner died 16/9/1908. Probate Exeter 25/9/1908 Hannah Harris widow Effects £70 1 s

2nd Marriage:
4/10/1879 Prestbury, Cheshire JP Harris and Hannah Beckett, father Samuel.

Hannah Beckett bapt 13 Jul 1845 St George, Sutton (near Macclesfield), Cheshire
daughter of Samuel & Mary Beckett

I have just located JP Harris discharge papers from the Coldstream Guards ! 4 pages of notes.
Service number Looks like : 49B - 368 with details.
Mentions that he had in his possession The Crimea Medal with sebastopol clasp, and the Turkish Medal.
It would be very inetresting to view/located these 2 medals !
 
Title: Re: Edward HARRIS - Seaman
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 09 December 15 11:41 GMT (UK)
Just a thought but have you seen the Edward Harris death registered at Newton Abbot Dec 1840 10 105?

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Edward HARRIS - Seaman
Post by: meggles on Thursday 31 December 15 05:32 GMT (UK)
wow - this post is 7 years old and I had completely forgotten about it (it was put up by a relative)

Edward Harris died at sea, he is mentioned on the headstone of his wife and we only know that it was between 1835 and 1840.  In 1840 John Petherick Harris moved to Shaldon (as did his sister) while his mother went to Exeter as a servent.  We are unsure of who they stayed with at the time and the by the 1841 census John Petherick Harris is working on a farm in drewsteighton and his sister in a house with unknown people to us.

After 7 years of research and quite a few trips to England I have a complete history of John Petherick Harris's life, and have got a little on his father and grandfather.

In regards to the army medals they are with John Petherick Harris  great great grandson here in Australia.

Cheers
MM