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Title: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: skb on Monday 03 January 05 22:11 GMT (UK)
If anyone can find this on either of the above censuses, I would be very grateful

Frederick J MATTHEWS born about 1871 in Bedminster

In 1901 he was a coal miner, living at 11 Berkeley Square, Bedminster with wife Maud E aged 27
and children
Annie M aged5
Cecil R aged 2
and Ethel M aged 6 months

In 1881 he is listed as Freferick J MATHEWS living at Laurence Hill, Bristol (St Philip & St Jacob Out)
with father also Frederick aged 34, a collar & harness maker,
mother Elizath. aged 33
and siblings
Eliza H   14
Rosina B   12
Arthur W   8
Florence E   6
Thomas R    3
Emily G   1
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 04 January 05 07:06 GMT (UK)
Here is the 1871 entry

RG10/2559 ED 14 Folio 61 Page 8
14 Church Street
St Philip and st Jacob
Gloucestershire


MATHEWS Frederick Head 24 Mar b Bristol Gloucestershire Master Harness Maker
MATHEWS Elizabeth Wife 23 Mar b Bristol Gloucestershire
MATHEWS Elizabeth H Dau 4  b Bristol Gloucestershire
MATHEWS Rosina B dau 2  b Bristol Gloucestershire
MATHEWS Frederick J Son 2 Months  b Bristol Gloucestershire

Cheers Kris  :D
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 04 January 05 07:16 GMT (UK)
1891 census

RG12/1950 ED 33 Folio 99 Page 8
31 S. Lukes Road
Bedminster Somerset


MATTHEWS Frederick Head 20 Mar b Bristol  Harness Maker
MATTHEWS Maggie Wife 18 Mar b Bristol
MATTHEWS Frederick C J Son 3 Months b Bristol

Cheers Kris  :D



Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 04 January 05 07:25 GMT (UK)
1891 census...The Parents

Rg12/1951 ED 37 Folio 39 Page 37
1 Hampton Terrace
Bedminster Somerset


MATTHEWS Frederick Head 44 Mar b Bristol Saddler
MATTHEWS Elizabeth Wife 43 Mar b St Philips Bristol
MATTHEWS Rosina B Dau 22 Unm b St Philips Bristol Chocolate Packer
MATTHEWS Arthur W Son 18 Unm b St Philips Bristol Harness Maker
MATTHEWS Florence e Dau 16 Unm b St Philips Bristol Saddlers Clerk
MATTHEWS Thomas r Son 13 b St Philips Bristol Scholar
MATTHEWS Emily G Dau 11 b St Philips Bristol Scholar

Cheers Kris  :D
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 04 January 05 07:44 GMT (UK)
I Just had a Look at the image for 1901 looking at the wifes name and it is deffinately Maud E and with a diff POB than Maggie in 1891...Did he have 2 wives? There is a 10 year old Frederick listed as nephew with William Clutterbuck 24 Head Mother Emma 51 Siblings Beatrice 26 and arthur 20 All born Bedminster...Lets me know if u want full details..Thought it seemed strange also that Frederick has gone from Harness maker to Coal Miner..But it must be the same person! Dont seem to be any others...Kris  ???
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: skb on Tuesday 04 January 05 19:27 GMT (UK)
Kris,
Thanks. You've been working overtime on this one.

The 2nd wife is a bit of a surprise. I'll have to investigate further.

As for the change of career, I know the family moved to a mining area of South Wales when Ethel was a child, so that sort of fits.

I would like the other details, please, if it's no trouble.
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 05 January 05 01:39 GMT (UK)
No Trouble at all  ;D By this I would have to assume that Maggie was Maggie Clutterbuck

RG13/2362 ED 35 Folio 92 Page 44
45 Mendip Road
Bristol Gloucestershire


CLUTTERBUCK William Head 24 Unm b Bristol Bedminster Mariner Merchant Service
CLUTTERBUCK Emma Mother 67 Widow b Bristol Bedminster Housekeeper
CLUTTERBUCK Beatrice Sister 26 Unm b Bristol Bedmisnter Dressmaker
CLUTTERBUCK Arthur Brother 20 Unm b Bristol Bedminster Clerk to Linen ? Yd
MATTHEWS Frederick Nephew 10 b Bristol Bedmister Scholar

Cheers Kris  :D
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: skb on Wednesday 05 January 05 11:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Kris.

Yes, I've now looked on freebmd and found a marriage between Frederick Matthews and Maggie Clutterbuck
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: judiboo on Friday 11 November 11 23:14 GMT (UK)
Two different Freds I am afraid. Fredk James Matthews Saddler & Harness Maker was my grandfather, married to Maggie Clutterbuck. The Saddlery goes back 200 years and the coal miner is not connected with this family.
HtH
Judy nee Matthews
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 11 November 11 23:27 GMT (UK)
Hi in 1891 their is a Frederick Matthews aged 19 occ Coal Miner b Bedminster shown as Boarder with Joseph John Bridges and family in Bedminster Census Ref RG12/1949/133/16

And in 1881, a Fred Matthews aged 9 shown as Boarder with Thomas and Sarah Knight aged 44 and 45 with a Charlotte Case aged 68
Residing at The White Squall, Bedminster Census Ref RG11/2450/114/15

Keyboard86
Title: Re: 1871 or 91 lookup MATTHEWS
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 11 November 11 23:44 GMT (UK)
Looks to be his parents in 1871:-

William J S Matthews occ Organ Builder 25 b Malmesbury Wiltshire
Emily L 23 b Pill Somerset
William J 1 b St Augustines Bristol
CHARLOTTE CASE 61 Widow/ Mother in Law b Pill Somerset
Ellen M Price 12 Niece b Pill Somerset
Residing at Willway Street, Bedminster.
Census Ref RG10/2507/82/3
Keyboard86