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Title: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: Don Gartlan on Thursday 03 January 08 04:20 GMT (UK)
Trying to find a needle in a haystack anyone game to help?

Looking for Catherine McCoy born Jan 9 1877 to Patrick McCoy and Catherine Connolly . Most likely in County Monaghan but not sure. Probably Catholic

Any help appreciated
Don
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 03 January 08 15:15 GMT (UK)
What sort of information are you hoping to find? details about her family? where she lived? when she died?
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: Don Gartlan on Thursday 03 January 08 15:41 GMT (UK)
Aghadowey

This is my Maternal grandmother and I am just starting to locate her family from Ireland. She came to the US as a child and I have no information as to where in Ireland she came from. Family rumor is Co Monaghan.

I'd like to find siblings as well.

Thanks
Don
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 03 January 08 18:30 GMT (UK)
Catherine McCoy's birth certificate will give names of both parents, date and actual place of her birth.
If you had a location (parish if not townland not just county) you could try searching for church records to look for other family members.
You said that Catherine went to US as a child- with her parents? other relatives? Any other details?
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: Don Gartlan on Friday 04 January 08 00:29 GMT (UK)
Actually the following is the only info I have on the family

Ann B 1876
Catherine B 1877 Ire
Sarah B 1881
Marie  B 1887
Frank ?
John Joseph ?
Willie ?

I would assume At least Ann and Catherine were born in Ireland since Catherine was younger than Ann. No idea if Catherine came here with parents  or by herself.  No place of birth for the rest of them so can't help much there. She could have been in her teens when she came here. Prior to 1890 there aren't much in the way of records and ships manifests aren't indexed.

The parents don't show up in the census records here in the U.S. though my mother said her grandmother lived with them when she was young would be after 1909 as mother was born then.  No mention of Patrick here in the states.
My math says all of the children would have been born in Ireland and Patrick might havd died in Ireland around turn of the century.
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 04 January 08 11:21 GMT (UK)
Early manifests will probably just give their residence as 'Ireland' which is not much help.
Where did all the children end up in the states? If you trace them in U.S. census records you should be able to find when and where they were all born (if younger children born in US parents must have gone to America also), when (approx) they all arrived in US (perhaps they came separately).
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: maryderry on Saturday 05 January 08 00:17 GMT (UK)
this is all i cound find, they may not be yours.

marriage. PATRICK MCCOY TO MARY CONNOLLY 26-5-1869. @ NEWRY R.C. CHURCH, NEWRY, ARMAGH/DOWN.

birth. MARGARET MCCOY 12-3-1870 PARENTS AS ABOVE B. NEWRY, ARMAGH/DOWN.


                                            regards mary.
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: Don Gartlan on Saturday 05 January 08 03:32 GMT (UK)
Mary
Thanks for the input. Your guess is as good as any I might have. The date seems to be in line. Name could have been Mary Catherine or Catherine Mary who knows, at least the surnames are right, and til I get others with the same surnames I'll use these as a base to locate further children. I at least have 2 birth dates and names to start with as well as the one you found.
Thanks again for your help.
Don
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: maryderry on Saturday 05 January 08 13:37 GMT (UK)
found this on igi family search.org

births. ELLEN MCCOY 19-10-1873. SARAH MCCOY 16-6-1875.DOWN, IRELAND.same parents as before.



                        regards mary.
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: Don Gartlan on Saturday 05 January 08 17:37 GMT (UK)
Mary

I think we mightr have the right family even though the names and dates are different than I originally had.

Obviously there is a lot more to do to prove or disprove the connection but I am at least going in a new direction. I realize that McCoy and Connolly are common names in Ireland but the combination of the two together gives me some hope.

Thanks again for the information
Don
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: Don Gartlan on Saturday 05 January 08 17:44 GMT (UK)
Aghadowey

Thanks for the input. I think MaryDerry may have found information that will put me on the road to success. I'll go down thwt road and see where it leads.

Thanks for the input

Don
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 05 January 08 19:08 GMT (UK)
Don- where in U.S. did your Catherine McCoy actually live? Found a Catherine McCoy with parents Patrick and Catherine and siblings in U.S. and if it is your Catherine will perhaps point your research in a different direction.
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: maryderry on Saturday 05 January 08 20:18 GMT (UK)
found mccoys in new jeresy usa with PATRICK MCCOY AND CATHERINE CONNOLLY AS PARENTS.

what do you think?.


                            regards mary.
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 05 January 08 20:59 GMT (UK)
That's the family I found Mary. Patrick McCoy and Catherine Connolly in Belleville, Essex, N.J. with children: John (1870), William Henry (1872), Julia (1876), Catherine (1878), Sarah (1881), Agnes (1885), Ann (1888).
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: Don Gartlan on Saturday 05 January 08 22:08 GMT (UK)
Aghadowey and Mary

Thats my family. Where did you locate the information?

Apparently someone in our family is also doing research on that branch and I wasn't aware of their interest.

Now I'm at my original question of where Catherine Connolly and Patrick Mc Coy originated from.

 I have them both born in Ireland but no location  This apparently does away with Newery as a birthplace.

Thanks again to both of you.

Don
Title: Re: Catherine McCoy 1877
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 05 January 08 22:27 GMT (UK)
Not aware of anyone else researching your McCoys- the information I found was extracted records on IGI for the family. Go to www.familysearch.org and do a parents search for Patrick McCoy and Catherine Connelly and you will see their children listed. The LDS site is one of the first places you should check when researching any family/person. According to the records there your Catherine McCoy was not born in Ireland but New Jersey. I had seen the details of this family the other day when I asked you for more details of your McCoys but didn't mention them because there were too many differences between the names and ages on your list to those on IGI.
You can also search for the family in 1880 U.S. census on LDS site to see what country the parents were born in but civil registration of Irish births did not start until 1864.