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Title: Darby Courtney
Post by: bankie on Friday 28 December 07 15:36 GMT (UK)
I’m looking for any information on the following family:

William Darby was born in Ireland, and died Bef. 1880.  He married Elizabeth Courtney.  She was born in Ireland, and died Bef. 1880. Child of William Darby and Elizabeth Courtney is: William Darby, b. Abt. 1829, Coalisland; Tyrone; Ireland; d. 19 Dec 1880, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland. He married AGNES MORGAN11 Aug 1849 in Dalry; Ayrshire; Scotland

Kind regards

Joe
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 28 December 07 16:25 GMT (UK)
It's likely that there'll be more information in Scottish records than ones in Ireland. Civil registration of births, deaths & Catholic marriages only began in 1864 (from 1845 for Protestant marriages). For earlier dates you need to check for church records (if they still exist).
Have you checked to see if William Darby and Elizabeth Courtney also moved to Scotland?
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: bankie on Saturday 29 December 07 12:51 GMT (UK)
I have most of the Darby side from Scotland, USA and New Zealand but was hoping that someone may have a sister/brother of William and Elizabeth in their family tree in Ireland. I also checked the Scotland census but there were no family staying with William and Agnes.

Thanks
Joe
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 29 December 07 13:09 GMT (UK)
I also checked the Scotland census but there were no family staying with William and Agnes.
Relatives might have been living nearby not nec. in the household during the census.
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: Blue Belle on Tuesday 06 January 09 06:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Joe,

One of your Kiwi connections here. Don't know what info I last passed on to you but found a marriage record for Elizabeth Courtney to Thomas Darby on 6 Dec 1824 in Coalisland. It turns out the name given for William Darby's death certificate was a mistake i.e. father being William when it should have been Thomas.

Thomas is also confirmed in the 1841 census for the family. Thomas, Elizabeth and William are all living in Whitburn, Lothian (I think from memory). A second son, John, was born c1844 in Glasgow. He married twice and had 10 children. Unfortunately a large number of them died in infancy. John, himself, died from laudanum poisoining in 1888.

Can provide you with updated info on what I've found if you want to send me an e-mail.

Regards,

Jodie.
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: bankie on Sunday 05 April 09 14:51 BST (UK)
Hi Jodie

Sorry I missed your post my computer was down for few months, but I’m back. Very interesting post good info. I don’t know if you already have this information. I was also sent information from a relative of John Darby 1859 regards his marriage to Mary McFarlane. Mary McFarlane was a widow when he married her, with 3 children, John, Mary and Peter. She was 26 when she married John and had two sons; one named Thomas and unknown. Thomas was born in Cambuslang in 1902. He married Margaret Currie in 1932 in Haddington, East Lothian. They had 4 children, Peter (now deceased), Maureen, Ann and Thomas. This was sent to me by Ann’s great aunt

Thanks again

Joe

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Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: mullens on Saturday 04 July 09 01:36 BST (UK)
My records show Agnes Morgan is my great-great grandmother.
Married William, they had John J Who died in Kentucky in the early 1900's
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: aljepeka on Saturday 04 July 09 02:15 BST (UK)
Hi Folks,

There is a courtney thread on the armagh board.  The area where the courneys are from in armagh is not that far from the tyrone border, here is the link   http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,388634.0.html

I hope you find a connection.

regards aljepeka
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: spacevortex on Saturday 03 April 10 12:10 BST (UK)
My records show Agnes Morgan is my great-great grandmother.
Married William, they had John J Who died in Kentucky in the early 1900's

My Records also show this but im struggling with some conflicting information when i get back to Johns parents.
my line back is my Nan Catherine who was the eldest of the family to my great grandfather Patrick who was johns Son. my mum has Patricks birth certificate or a copy of this as its dated the 29th december 1919, possibly the original got lost or he needed this to get married. The parents are listed as John Darby coal miner and Marry Ann Darby (M A Mullan) but nothing came up until i started to look at Mullen.

My mum told me there was always some secrecy surrounding John and no one in the family really talked about it. The story she managed to get was that he left Kilmarnock to work a team of horses for a rich Irish family (possibly Tobacco) there he met and married the daughter, so she married beneath herself. She later died giving birth and he lived with someone else the elder children we basically kicked out on the streets. John bought 2 tickets for him and Patrick to go to America but during this time John’s brother was on the run from the police and he used Patrick’s ticket instead.
When John died I’m told that a black man who looked after him wrote to the family requesting if he could keep johns belongings including a watch. The family wrote back and said keep his belongings. That was the last they heard.

The story does seem a little out of some romantic novel, and research has shown  different.....

Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: splinter1940 on Monday 15 April 19 04:56 BST (UK)
I’m looking for any information on the following family:

William Darby was born in Ireland, and died Bef. 1880.  He married Elizabeth Courtney.  She was born in Ireland, and died Bef. 1880. Child of William Darby and Elizabeth Courtney is: William Darby, b. Abt. 1829, Coalisland; Tyrone; Ireland; d. 19 Dec 1880, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland. He married AGNES MORGAN11 Aug 1849 in Dalry; Ayrshire; Scotland

Kind regards

Joe

I am knew to this site but not a novice. Have a fair amount of info re Janet/Jeanette Darby who married John Slavin. John Slavin son of janet married my fathers sister.
Am just playing as to whether this posts ok
G
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: bankie on Monday 15 April 19 18:09 BST (UK)
Hi G
Not much on John apart from what was sent to me

More About JOHN SLEVIN and JANET DARBY:
Marriage: 13 Jul 1893, Sacred Heart Chapel; Glasgow; Scotland
   
Children of JOHN SLEVIN and JANET DARBY are:
   i.   FRANCES2 SLAVIN, b. 1894, Glasgow; Lanarkshire; Scotland; d. 1995.
   ii.   WILLIAM SLAVIN, b. Abt. 1896, Glasgow; Lanarkshire; Scotland; d. 12 Sep 1914, Ralphs Mine; Huntly; Waikato; New Zealand.

Notes for WILLIAM SLAVIN:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sooty/huntlymine.html
HUNTLY, WAIKATO, NEW ZEALAND
MINE DISASTER
SATURDAY 12 SEPTEMBER 1914

More About WILLIAM SLAVIN:
Burial: Kimihia Cemetery; Huntly; Waikato; New Zealand
Occupation: Mine Trucker

   iii.   CECELIA SLAVIN, b. 1898, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland.
   iv.   JOHN SLAVIN, b. 04 Oct 1903, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland.
   v.   AGNES MORGAN SLAVIN, b. 01 Mar 1908, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland; d. 19 Jul 1982, Auckland; New Zealand; m. JOHN HENRY MCRAE, 1926, New Zealand; b. 21 Jul 1904, Auckland; New Zealand; d. 13 Aug 1965, Auckland; New Zealand.

More About JOHN MCRAE and AGNES SLAVIN:
Marriage: 1926, New Zealand

hope its of interest and if you can add any information that would be great


regards

joe
Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: hallmark on Monday 15 April 19 18:55 BST (UK)



IF they were R.C.  has anyone checked registers?





Title: Re: Darby Courtney
Post by: splinter1940 on Monday 15 April 19 23:06 BST (UK)
Hi G
Not much on John apart from what was sent to me

More About JOHN SLEVIN and JANET DARBY:
Marriage: 13 Jul 1893, Sacred Heart Chapel; Glasgow; Scotland
   
Children of JOHN SLEVIN and JANET DARBY are:
   i.   FRANCES2 SLAVIN, b. 1894, Glasgow; Lanarkshire; Scotland; d. 1995.
   ii.   WILLIAM SLAVIN, b. Abt. 1896, Glasgow; Lanarkshire; Scotland; d. 12 Sep 1914, Ralphs Mine; Huntly; Waikato; New Zealand.

Notes for WILLIAM SLAVIN:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sooty/huntlymine.html
HUNTLY, WAIKATO, NEW ZEALAND
MINE DISASTER
SATURDAY 12 SEPTEMBER 1914

More About WILLIAM SLAVIN:
Burial: Kimihia Cemetery; Huntly; Waikato; New Zealand
Occupation: Mine Trucker

   iii.   CECELIA SLAVIN, b. 1898, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland.
   iv.   JOHN SLAVIN, b. 04 Oct 1903, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland.
   v.   AGNES MORGAN SLAVIN, b. 01 Mar 1908, Kilmarnock; Ayrshire; Scotland; d. 19 Jul 1982, Auckland; New Zealand; m. JOHN HENRY MCRAE, 1926, New Zealand; b. 21 Jul 1904, Auckland; New Zealand; d. 13 Aug 1965, Auckland; New Zealand.

More About JOHN MCRAE and AGNES SLAVIN:
Marriage: 1926, New Zealand

hope its of interest and if you can add any information that would be great


regards

joe
Am aware of what you sent thanks Joe.
My connection is distant but John Slavin (b 1904 to John and Janet Darby) married my fathers sister.

1891 Scotland Census
At 42 Cheapside St Glasgow
John Slavin  head age 48 Shoemaker b Ireland
Ellen Slavin Wife age 49 b Ireland
John Slavin Son Unmarried age 24 Shoemaker b Ireland
Thomas Slavin Son Unmarried age 20 Ship Labourer  b Ireland
Michael Slavin Son Unmarried age 14 Scholar b Ireland
Patrick Slavin Son Unmarried age 11 Scholar b Ireland
These are all  step children of Ellen as RC baptisms at Letterkenny name mother as Frances McGlinchey

Ellen's name on marriage of John to Janet Darby in 1893 gives her parents as defintely
David McLauchlan and (hard to read - Annie?) McGhee.

The trouble is on census no townlands are given so hard know where to look.
Graham