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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Safficat on Thursday 27 December 07 18:29 GMT (UK)
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Hello I m new and Ive OD on family history and thoroughly confused myself. I would appreciate help
I am trying to find the birth of parents of William Hosack of Edinbugh who owned Estates in Jamaica
on his death cert his( birth would be1808) parents are John Hosack and Jean Tining. I Found their marriage entry for 1807 in dumfries but no ages and no birth cert for william
William had a brother john who was a Barrister at law in London as there are some university archived paper in which he had written to a lord Grey on behalf of plantation owners in Jamaica and states his brother John in London would explain matters further.
Now i know there is a well known John Hosack Police Magistrate who wrote Mary Queen of Scots and her accusers born in Banff 1809 to John Hosack and Jean Gilbert and at his death 1887 is a biography on Ancestory. com states 1809 -1887 third son of John hosack of Glenzaber Dumfries
I have found my john hosack (Williams brother ) in English census and his birth would be about 1815 Scotland but no birth cert for him I did howevr find a cert for a sister Mary Ann in 1810 Toqueer Kirkcudbright and have found her living on plantation called Woodstock owned by william in jamaica But today I found an entry on County Families on ancestry of John Bell and His Parents John Bell and Mary Ann Hosack of Woodstock Jamaica daughter of John Hosack Of Glenzaber dumfries .....I am open to any suggestions
Thankyou
Saffi cat
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Saffi cat, I can see the following on:
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (pay site)
William Hosack
born: 9/9/1808
Parents: John Hosack/Jean Tinning
Tinwald, Dumfries
Is this any help?
Have you tried looking at: www.familysearch.org
Dee
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Oh my... life! I have searched scotlands people over and over again how did I miss that? Thankyou
I will go back and search again and familysearch in case ive missed anything.
But still my confusion remains is john Hosack of glenzaber the father of my john b. 1815 or the better known John of Banff b. 1809
Thank you again
Saffi cat
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Saffi cat, I could not find a birth for John in 1815, but I have found the following birth in 1813. There are no births listed at all for any Hosack/Hossack in 1815
John Hossack b. 14/05/1813
Father: John Hossack/Mother: ? Teining
Area: Terregles, Kirkcudbright
Is this any help?
You said his sister was born in Kirkcudbright and I was wondering if this was her brother?
Dee
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Saffi cat, lucky last for tonight - the eyes are playing tricks on me!.
John Hosack
b. 07/07/1809
Father: John Hosack
Mother: Jean Gilbert
Area: Rathven, Banff
Best wishes
Dee
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Hi
Have you thought of looking for wills? They often list family members and can be a great help in deciding who is who.
Andrea
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Thank you yes
I found a will I opened up the one I thought belonged to the Father of the better known John Hosack - a John Hosack at Glengaber and it is the right one .
Six pages long , will take me a year to read
Many thanks
Lorraine
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Hello Safficat,
I read your previous messages about William Hossack and his brother John. It could be a coincidence; but it is unlikely. William is my great, great, great grandfather who spent much of his life in Jamaica and returned to Scotland towards his later years. I know much about him because in my family I have had several relatives who lived to be over 100 and everyone talked about him. The date of birth you mentioned 1808/09 would be correct. He came to Jamaica at the age of 17 to look over his family's properties which were sugar and coffee plantations with hundreds of slaves.
Sincerely,
lilylilac
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Dear Lilyliac
I am also researching my Hosack ancestors, by marriage. My family were the Tinnings of Tinwald, my great-great-great Grandfather was James Tinning, the brother of Jean Carruthers Tinning who married John Hosack of Glengaber. James' father, John Tinning was married to Mary /ann Graham of Cannonbie, Dumfrieshire and they had at least eight living children.
I have come to this late, so may have missed you ... hope not!
Jenny
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Hi tinning and welcome to rootschat
I do hope you get a response. Neither of the Hosack researchers has been on for some time but they should get a notification of your reply. Let us hope they get back to you. If you make a couple more posts you can send a personal message to Safficat by clicking on the letter icon under their name. You need three posts to activate it.
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You can check the database for compensation paid when slavery was abolished, the slaves of course, got nothing. http://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/
Skoosh.
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Dear Jenny,
No, you did not miss me. My great great grandmother was a Hossack. The last name is spelled several different ways in Jamaican records. I was scheduled to go to Jamaica in May and research their amazing archives ; but had to cancel the trip. The records in Jamaica are very good. My oldest relatives who were over 100 talked about William a lot because their parents, who were his grandchildren, knew him and spoke of him often. Although, he lived a long life and maintained contact with his Jamaican family, he returned to Scotland at some point and married there. William was not only a plantation owner; but a statesman as well as a poet. I intend to resume my research and hope you receive this note and keep in touch.
Byefor now,
Lilylilac
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Mary Ann Hosack, daughter of John Hosack of Buff Bay plantation St George jamaica, who himself died in 1815 (PCC will on Ancestry) married John Bell, planter at Woodstock in St George in 1828 (Blackwoods Magazine, online, September 1828) - she died in 1838 in Jamaica, but the death is recorded apparently on a Girvan tombstone (according to David Dobson, Scots in the West Indies). The index to the 1829 slave returns for St George shows John Bell as acting as attorney for the heirs of John Hosack - he had laid down in his will that his son William was not to inherit until he reached the age of 26, but compensation, when it was paid, went to him. Mary Ann seems to have married at 16.