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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: normandiebelle on Monday 24 December 07 20:26 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
Does anyone know if there was a public overhead (rail) footbridge on Holderness Road, Hull in the 1960's?. If there was would anyone have any idea where I could find a photograph?
Many thanks in advance.
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http://prismdata.hullcc.gov.uk/gallery2/v/Postcards_001/029+Holderness+Road+Hull+1904.jpg.html
http://prismdata.hullcc.gov.uk/gallery2/v/Postcards/2/490+Holderness+Road+Hull+1920_s.jpg.html
lots of photo's ....you might get lucky
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:D Many thanks for the response. More pictures that I can shake a stick at :) I have found a photo there of a church, St Marys in Hull which is now demolished. One of my ancestors was married there and I only ever had a church name - now have a photo to go with it. Again, thanks for your time.
Regards.
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I'm still looking for some 60's photo's... ;D
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Hi,
I used to cycle from west Hull to Thomas Street and also East Park on Holderness Road in the 1950's but I don't recall a footbridge.
Maybe the people who run this website could help?
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/stations/s/southcoates/index.shtml
Good luck,
Rena in Lancashire
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:)Another big thank you for the website and I found something there which indicates that I am on the right track...just perhaps I had not explained it correctly, for example and I quote...
The site of Southcoates station looking north in October 2005. In the shot looking north, the railway trackbed ran approximately through the traffic lights (the site of the level crossing on Holderness Road)
Its the 'site of the level crossing on Holderness Road' that I am looking for a photo of.
Again, many thanks for all your time :)
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I surfed for your railway footpath and didn't find a photo. But the map on the link that I gave shows there were 2 places where railway lines crossed over Holderness Road. One was a level crossing and the other was a rail bridge over the road. It's a pity the map didn't name any minor roads which could have been an added aid when googling.
Anyway, thanks for the question which led me to the sub station site because I found a photo of Botanic Station on Spring Bank in west Hull. I have many happy childhood memories of being part of the throng taking a day trip to either Withernsea or Hornsea.
Good luck,
Rena
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http://www.hmrs.org.uk/photocat/HMRS-PhotoCAT-Colour.pdf
this say's there is a photo of the footbridge,platform and signal box......but all I'm getting is a little icon in the top right hand corner,perhaps you'll have better luck.. :-\
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But the map on the link that I gave shows there were 2 places where railway lines crossed over Holderness Road. One was a level crossing and the other was a rail bridge over the road. It's a pity the map didn't name any minor roads which could have been an added aid when googling.
Hi,
As far as I can remember (but I'll check with the oracle when he wakes up) the rail bridge that crossed Holderness Road is near to Craven Street and carries the line to the docks, the level crossing is a short distance west and crossed Holderness Road close to where Mount Pleasant is nowadays.
Bee
:)
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Thanks firstly to Rena, hepburn and Bee,
From the websites sent I have located a clear map of the area on Holderness Road where the crossing was (ish) Courtney Street / Waller Street area. I had a further browse to see if there was a photo of any description but nothing so far. But I am hopeful - again thanks for your input it is appreciated. :)
Regards.
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Hi!
l live near Holderness Road, the only over road rail track l know of ever being there is near cleveland street, the line is only used to transport coal from the docks now. lf you know of the exact location of any other tracks that may have been there l can take a look and see what info l can get.
There was a rail track many years back running through Marfleet avenue/lane side of hull. The walkway is still there where the track used to be and there is a bridge which goes over the old track. This track would have at some point crossed holderness road but l have never taken the time to follow it and see exactly where it leads.
l know it went as far as withernsea in the other direction.
Dont know if this helps.
Lace.
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Hi
I used to live in Hull and was only discussing the crossing with my mum and dad before Christmas. From what we remember the track crossed Holderness Road near East Hull Baths. It was towards the Craven Street side and was where there is a hotel now. The track bed was where the new road from Hedon Road to Chamberlain Road? was put in. That would put it next to Brazil Street I think, also "Vine Street" crossing rings a bell with me.
I do remember my sister buying a car from a 2nd hand car lot that was next to the crossing gates , circa 1979. It was on the left as you went into town.
Hope that helps,
Ian
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Hi,
My husband apart from working on the railway is a railway enthusiast and he suggests getting in touch with the Railway Correspondence and Travel Society, this is the link to the local branch
http://www.rootschat.com/links/02h8/
they may have photos.
Bee
:)
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Hi,
The footbridge in question was next to what is now the vacant cornmill hotel which is next to where the church where one of your relations was married was on Brazil st which was demolished at a guess some 20 years ago.
The footbridge was the Hull to Witherensea line [not 100% sure] i believe and must have been taken down some 35 years ago it is now a road called Mount Pleasant which links Hedon road to Stoneferry and runs the original rout of the railway line.
The site where Waller st was is now one of these modern shopping fandangoe's with a asda jjb sport matalan etc.
Courtney st is across Holderness rd from the shopping centre.
Further along the line and running parallel there was once a stadium before and up to 1922 where Hull Kingston Rovers Rugby club played was later to be-com the Hollis bros timber co when the rugby club from it's Craven st ground to one further down Holderness rd.
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i can remember this bridge well, as a child i would run up the stairs if a train was coming and wait as it passed underneath for the steam i thought it was like being up in the clouds . We would catch the train to Withernsea at the station. The man who operated the switches only had one arm ,he was the g/dad of one of my schoolfriends .The yard on the same side of the road was a feed and hay suppliers. this was opposite the bridge .
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just recalled where rovers was Morrisons store is now built on the site .I used to go to every home match. but this was 40 odd yrs ago dont think i would pay the price now it was about 2and eleven then or 30p to those born after 1971.
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i posted a note about this bridge in January i can remember running to the top when a train was coming . I would stand and wait for it to pass under for the steam i always thought that was what heaven would be like for the angels. It is now a major rd in hull to the docks on Hedon rd. you cansee it on google as mount pleasant holderness rd
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janeyanne/ nearly right i allso ran up them stairs and got coverd in muck the one amared man opend and closed the gates. there was only one oher crossing near there it in dansom lane near reckites. the hay yard was opp side the corner of beeton st. do you remberwhen the site of morrisons was a bus depot. bil
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janeyanne/ nearly right i allso ran up them stairs and got coverd in muck the one amared man opend and closed the gates. there was only one oher crossing near there it in dansom lane near reckites. the hay yard was opp side the corner of beeton st. do you remberwhen the site of morrisons was a bus depot. bil
Yes part of the site was the east Hull bus depot for Hull city transport.
It was built of ferros brick and a grade two listed building.
Funny how it got accidently demolished without checking first for listed status.
The car park for Morrisons was Hull Kingston Rovers car park. Where the store is now was where the pitch and the stands where and where Morrisons elivery road and staff parking is where the bus depot was.
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Hi everyone,
I've just found this forum and thread whilst researching the Withernsea to Hull Railway line. I recently came across some footage of the whole line, filmed from the cab of a train travelling the line in 1957, which I've uploaded to Youtube. The link to this footage is here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFfy5ZVi-XA
Southcoates Station and Holderness Road crossing (including footbridge!) appear from approximately 2 minutes and 55 seconds in to the film.
Thought I'd post the link here as I thought it would be of interest to some of you.
Cheers
Tim
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Excellent footage. I was sat there watching it with a smile on my face when it got into Hull as i remember some of the landmarks and many of the bridges are still there.
I too use to run onto the top of that bridge when a train was coming just like those people stud on it in the film.
Thanks for that. :)
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hi again janeyanne ive just been looking thu a book out of library called hull-then and now.there is pictures of railway crssings with steps going over the rails when the gates are closed . i never knew about them.all our talk was holderness rd. i know its a while since but its a bit of interest cheers
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hi hepbun
iknow its rather late with this reply .but if you want to know any thing about hull ,just look into abook named,hull.then sndnow,
it can be borried from libary.irecently read and ive lived all my life and some of it was new to me .
for istance ididnt know that had been a rail crossing plus over head steps going over .it was near the pup
ripon arms.i hope you or any other readers can read it. it very interes
bill
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hi hepburn
sorry about the spelling in my p/m the pub not pup ripon arms was on hedon road near the crossing try
and get the book ,it may bring back memories
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hi dennis
ive just beenreading the old treads regarding hold rd crossing but iam surprised not a mention about the ripon arms crossing.i know poeple are no longer with us now{i shoudnt think so] but i thought might have been a good talking point .by the way i rember the old rovers gr at the bottom of craven st ;D
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Hi bessingby. i don't know of the ripon arms crossing but I'm sure as hell my Dad will, I'm seeing him on Christmas day so i will mention it and I'm sure i will say ah of course i do remember it.
Wow you remember Rovers ground at Craven :o street. As far as i recall they moved in 1922.
Regards.
DD
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hey dennis i iam not that old getting on yes
but what i meant was when i went down craven st and climb up the steps {did you know about them }to go on to hedon rd i looked down and saw where ground had been so i was told i was only a young lad. :
merry xmas bill
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Just found this, enjoyed the view and the A5 class 4-6-2T 69858 running round train at Withernsea.
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hey dennis i iam not that old getting on yes
but what i meant was when i went down craven st and climb up the steps {did you know about them }to go on to hedon rd i looked down and saw where ground had been so i was told i was only a young lad. :
merry xmas bill
Hi Bill, yes i remember the steps. And when Hollis brothers timber yard moved you could actually see the oval of the old ground
No insult meant by the way.
Regards D.D
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I was born in Hull in 1950 but was taken away in 1956 and never saw it again until a few years ago. I'm now trying to piece together memories of my childhood. I saw timnuttall2000's video of the Withernsea to Hull line and was fascinated to see images of a ride which my mother used to take me on. I'm particularly interested in the buildings seen from the train. Is there a higher resolution version of the film? Presumably one at normal speed would be?
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Hi
I have an image which may be of interest, please visit our website; lordline.co.uk
Hope this helps
Regards, LORDLINE
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Thanks for posting the link for the footage of the Withernsea - Hull train...brilliant...a journey I made frequently as a child :D
As there are a few people with interests in or a connection to the railways I would like to mention a forthcoming Railway Exhibition at the Carnegie Heritage Centre scheduled for Saturday February 25th.
We would be particularly interested to see any Railway Memorabilia and related items of interest:
http://www.carnegiehull.co.uk/carnegie-heritage-centre.php
I will post a flyer of the event here a bit nearer the time.
Carol