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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Reiver on Wednesday 19 December 07 14:59 GMT (UK)
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May I seek some help/advice, please?
Riddell Robson was a builder in Newcastle in the early 1800s. Info. from directories and on'line archives. In 1823 he went to a performance of Tom&Jerry at the Theatre Royal, Necastle, a fire broke out and in the crush his wife died in his arms. I am pretty certain that he is indeed a relative but I'm not sufficiently sure.
My Riddell was baptised in 1783 in Newburn parish and I believe died in 1874 at Whorlton in the same Parish.on 24th June 1867 where the occupation on his DC was 'Landed Proprietor'. I thought the National Burial Index on Findmypast might add additional names but it didn't.
I think I have two children of his - one also Riddell - born between 1816 and 1822 but I'm not sure. His wife's name is also proving eluaive - at least I cannot find it via the IGI.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Reiver
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Hi Reiver!
a couple of thoughts -
As a landed proprietor he may have had enough "clout" to have had quite an extensive obituary in the local newspaper following his death.
Also, as, above, he would more than likely have left a will.
Judy ;)
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Thanks very much Judy. I shall endeavour to follow those up
Reiver :)
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Hi Reiver
Have just found a marriage for a Riddell Robson to an Ann Nelson in 1814 at St John's Church, Newcastle
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/Transcriptions/NBL/MNSJ1813.html
;)
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Reiver
Good luck on your search, Whorlton Church is a good hike from Newburn. On the Ncle- Stamfordham Road just past the Jingling Gate Pub on the left at the next Cross Roads , on the way to the old Walbottle Colliery and Callerton.
John Dixon
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Thank you Judy for the marriage at St. John and John for Whorlton Church location.
The Riddell who I felt was son of the above Riddell called his daughter Ann Nelson ROBSON. I'm sure I know why now :). It would seem that St John Church was on Westgate, the area which occurs frequently in the online archive material for Riddell.
I understand Whorlton Church was built about 1899. So presumably it was a long walk from Whorlton to Newburn - the parish church much earlier.
Regards
Reiver
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The Riddell who I felt was son of the above Riddell called his daughter Ann Nelson ROBSON. I'm sure I know why now :).
Hi Reiver! It's great when that happens, isn't it! Very thoughtful of our ancestors to leave us clues like that!!! :D :D
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May I seek some help/advice, please?
Riddell Robson was a builder in Newcastle in the early 1800s. Info. from directories and on'line archives. In 1823 he went to a performance of Tom&Jerry at the Theatre Royal, Necastle, a fire broke out and in the crush his wife died in his arms. I am pretty certain that he is indeed a relative but I'm not sufficiently sure.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Reiver
this would have been the old Theatre royal that stood on Mosley st. it was pulled down in 1837 with the opening of the grand building which stands on Grey st.
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My namesake John raises the fact that Whorlton Church is
a "good hike" from Newburn.
Riddell was baptised at Newburn Parish Church in 1783.
In those "early" days, everyone ( Anglican that is) born within the territory that was NEWBURN parish, would have been baptised in the parish church.
So Riddell could have been born in Newburn village/town itself very near to the parish church, or at Dalton the western extreme of the parish, or even at Whorlton, and still have been baptised at the parish church ( on Census 1841 that looks like him on page 823/14 2-11, in Whorlton)
Michael Dixon
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Thank you all for your help and input.
Before my first post I knew that Riddell Robson was baptised in 1783 at Newburn and that his father died at Whorlton. I had found that he had died in 1867, obtained the Death Certificate and found that he had died at Whorlton and was 'a 'Landed Proprietor' - which was news but probably ties in with his being a builder and the details available from various on'line archive indexes. Judy pointed me to his marriage in 1814 at St. John church in Newcastle to Ann Nelson
Census returns turned up a probable son also Riddell. He chrstened a daughter with the names Ann Nelson and another daughter was christened Sarah who married a Thomas Bell. I had been told many years ago that Riddell senr' had a son Riddell who had a daughter who had married a Bell and 'therefore gone distincthly up in the wotld'
But I cannot find a baptism for young Riddell as anticipated in 1816/17 in Newcastle according to Census returns.
Many thanks again
Regards
Reiver
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Reiver,
In which Parish records have you looked to find Riddell/Riddle junior's baptism ?
Michael Dixon
Newcastle
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As yet none, Michael. There seem so many to choose from :)
My immediate thought would be St. John but I see from Genuki that there do not appear to be baptism transcription for the parish of St. John after 1812.
I plan on getting the fiche(s) for Newburn events but am unlikely to find it there. Riddell Senr. I think had another child (Robert) born in Whorlton so the Newburn records may help there. I have other Robsons to look at as well - - - - but none in Newcastle :)
Regards
Reiver
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No Riddell Robson baptism in Newburn 1813-1839
No Robson father name Riddell in Newburn either 1813-1839
Janis
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Thanks Janis
That look up is appreciated.
Regards
Reiver
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Hi Reiver
have you seen the baptisms of two daughters of Riddell and Ann on the IGI?
Anna Robson born 7th August 1815, baptized 10th Aug 1815, at St Andrew's RC church, Newcastle
Joan Riddell Robson bap 1st November 1816 at Newcastle (no church named)
If they were Roman Catholics, that might give you a clue where to look for the younger Riddell.
Judy ;)
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No, I had nor seen those Judy. Thank you.
Since you pointed me to the Riddell / Ann Hunter marriage the other day I hadn't looked at the IGI.
Riddell and Ann Hunter married at St John which is a CofE church. I'm pretty certain that Riddell was not Roman Catholic so it would appear that Ann was and wanted her first daughter to be baptised in her own faith. The Joan Riddell baptism you mentioned? Could it be submitted? There is no mention of a church as you pointed out and yet it appears in a file of some sort.
I'm trying to see whether Riddell senior left a will. That may tie up some loose ends. I'll let you all know,
Best wishes to everybody
Reiver
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Hi Reiver
Yes, I thought it strange about the RC marriage. Looking on Google I see that there is a St Andrew's RC church in Newcastle,
http://www.st-andrews-worswick.org.uk/
but also an older St Andrew's Anglican church.
http://www.standrewsnewcastle.org.uk/
I'm not suggesting that the submitter made an error, but it might be worth checking out.
If other children were baptized there, I think it would be a good place to look for your young Riddell.
Good Luck! Judy ;)