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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: Windsor87 on Sunday 09 December 07 13:01 GMT (UK)
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I've been working on a very positive line for a number of weeks now, carefully going forward using the dangerous rule of probability.
Probability was working fine on this line for I was working on a rare surname (Rettie) in a fairly small dwelling (Parish of Monquhitter (Abderdeenshire)).
This line was going well from the first Rettie (b.1800) down to the last Rettie birth of 1716 all in the same small parish. I was getting fairly excited, because I was only 16 years away from breaking into the 17th century - the first time I would have done so on my own accord.
The man born in 1716 was a George Rettie (going by his christian name, I'm guessing the family were Hanoverian or impartial to Jacobitism) and his father was William. So I did a search of Wil Retties and variants for the whole of Aberdeenshire between 1675 and 1700...
Again I was excited to see 3 matches!
Unfortunately all three of them were William 'Raittie' (probable varient), all from the Parish of Monquhitter, born in 1678, 1679 and 1695 respectively.
So basically, it could be ant of the three of them. So close, but yet so far...
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I found this on the IGI
George Rettie father William mother Margaret Froster
Margaret Froster bapt 7/12/1686 New Deer
Father John Froster /mother Christan Chessor
William Rettie born c 6 Jul 1678 married 14 June 1711
to Margaret Froster
This information can be found on familysearch I dont know
how accurate it is!
Jinks
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Thanks jinks.
I will look into it and see if I can get any more evidence to make the link. :)
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My ggg grandfather was James Rettie (1820 - 1902). According to his DC - registered by his son Adam - he was the son of Adam Rettie and ? Paterson. He was the husband of Eliza Yeats and father of 8 - Catherine, James, Alexander, William, John, Adam, Andrew and Eliza. He - and most of the family - were from Monquhitter.
Do you have any info on this line? I can't imagine that there are too many different Retties in Monquhitter!
stuartroxy
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I had a look at the IGI Pedigree Resource File and, providing the information is correct, I think that I am related to the same line that jinks posted.
stuartroxy
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Windsor87,
Did you get anywhere?
stuartroxy
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Hello Stuart,
Sorry for the delay in my response. When you last posted on the 1st September the deadline for my postgrad dissertation was looming. That will be my excuse.
I have not been able to make a definate connection with William Rettie and Margaret Froster.
At the minute my Rettie line is as follows.
William Raittie - place and date of birth and death unknown.
His son was George Rettie, b. 6 Oct 1716 in Monquhitter. Married Margaret Smith (b.1716) on 1 Jan 1741 in Monquitter.
They had a son, Alexander Rettie, b. 10 Oct 1847 in Monquhitter. Married Christina Anderson (b.1759) on 30 May 1784 in Monquhitter.
They had a daughter, Ann Rettie (1800-1875). She was married to John Bruce who died after being struck by lightening in 1864.
Thats all I have, and even some of that looks dodgy.
Windsor87
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Windsor87,
My Rettie line comes from Adam Rettie (1791 - 1874); he was Ann's sister. I found a connection on a family tree to William Rettie and Margaret Froster; however, there was no documentary evidence. The dates look reasonable though.
stuartroxy
PS Hope the disertation went well!
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Jinks, Stuart and Windsor..I have just found this thread on Rettie..and have most of these people on my tree with some degree of similarity. My sources were from a tree "handed down" to me from a 2nd cousin researched through LDS many years ago and the Rettie Family Bible (Alexander Rettie and Margaret Mair) which I have. My tree on Ancestry is "Shakelton-Turner" and I am "PamWong74"
I just wanted to post, say hello and see if anything is new. It has been awhile since I looked at this line but had an inquiry yesterday from someone new..new year, new research, time to take a comb over what I have again..don't you just love the naming patterns!! :-(
Cheers from Canada
Pam
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Pam
William, George, Alexander, Adam - all living in the same community, all named after their father/grandfather/uncle. What could be easier to research ???
I've had a look at your tree as well - George b1716 appears to be the link.
stuartroxy
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Just came across this thread , My Grandfather was William Rettie Tough , His Grandmother was Mary Crighton , Begg,Rettie ,Bannerman (she married 3 times)Her 2nd husband was William Rettie , not sure of his birth , but they were married 4/8/ 1855 . They had the following children Alex and Mary (Twins) born 1856, James born 1858 Tyrie , William 1859 , Margaret Jane 1861, Helen 1864 , . I hope you find some connection to your line , and maybe I can fill in some holes in my own research
Take care Melanie
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Stuart
Sorry for the delay (I didn't get a notice..have to fix that).
Another Rettie descendant and I have just made contact and are trying to sort out George 1716 as well. I take it you can see all the details on my tree..your thoughts? Its my first serious venture into my Rettie line since I knew I had a good bit of it in hand. I have to "sort" the families from the IGI once more for myself. Margret Ann Rettie/Forbear was my Great Grandmother, Merscedda Ellen Forbear Grandma, Thirza Shakelton was my mother..and ta dah!! :-)
Feel free to pm me and join the email exchange with us...meanwhile I will invite my "cousin" to join RC here.
Pam
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Hi,
I just joined, so not too sure how this all works, but Pam and I have made some inroads into the Rettie clan since she posted in January. I think she has posted our findings on her Ancestry profile, but we are happy to answer questions, too.
I have a question about place names within parishes. For example, in baptism records for 5 of the children of William Raittie/Rettie/Retty/Retie/Ratie, etc. (b. July 6, 1678, wife -Margaret Froster) of Monquhitter parish he is listed as being "in Middlehill". Would that have been the name of a town in Monquhitter or perhaps of his own house, or just a general district? Being from Canada, I am not familiar with how addresses are/were handled in Scotland.
Also, has anyone from that region heard of a place called (as far as I can make out the handwriting) Croitown? (where William's father was from) I can't quite make out the writing on the baptism certificate, but I that's what it looks like, so I hope the name might be familar to someone from the area. I see Windsor87 is in Fraserburgh which is the general vicinity - no?
Thanks for any insights anyone can offer.
sam12
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Hi,
Middlehill was /is a farm to the east of the village of Cuminestown ( could this be your Croitown?). You can see it's location if you log on to streetmap.co.uk. There are a few Middlehills but the above-mentioned is the one you want I hope.
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Perfect! Thanks, I'll take a look.
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Link to :-
http://www.scottish-places.info/parishes/pardetails259.html
then from the box at the top right, "Show Map", click "19C map", a map will come up, click and hold the map and just move the mouse/map across to the left, showing Middlehill on the right/centre border.
Regards
Malky
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See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8349
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WOW! I found the farm!
I located Middlehill on your sites and on Google Earth so spent an entire afternoon travelling through the area. I feel like I just had a holiday in Scotland!
I really appreciate all your input. Thanks so much to everyone.
Val
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Val, Sam and Melanie,
Sorry for appearing tardy; I've only just noticed that this thread has been added to! I'll have a look to see if there is anything that I can add to the party.
stuartroxy
Pam; I've just invited you to my tree on A*
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Hi Stuart,
I don't know whether you have gotten any further since the posts that are here, but Pam and I have been able to confirm Margaret Froster as the wife of William Rettie/Raittie (b.July 6, 1678), and that his father was John Raittie.
You might want to talk to Pam about further info as we also found several more children. She has copies of the original baptism records. I believe she found them on scotlandspeople.
I'm away for a month, but will continue to dig.
Sam/Val
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I've also got some stuff from SP. Thanks for the piece on John Raittie; I have Margaret's parents as John Froster and Cirstan Chessor - I think from SP.
stuartroxy