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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Carlow => Topic started by: Aussie Karrob on Sunday 09 December 07 11:17 GMT (UK)
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My Great Grandfather was Robert McDOWELL. I have very little on this man. Here is what I do have.
According to the book "Winds Of Change" ( Edited by Bess HANSFORD, PUB 1988), about the people & places around the town of Mumbil in NSW, Australia:
1) He was born 1836 at "Royal Oak" Carlow
2) Arrived in Australia in 1838, accompanied by his mother Margaret ??? presumably McDOWELL at the time
3) Robert McDOWELL married 1859 Frances Elizabeth BAILEY
From NSW BMD site:
Marriage certificate detail for Robert McDOWELL:
Reg No: 1859/003123
Date/Place: 18 October 1859/Burrandong
Names: Robert McDOWELL & Frances Elizabeth BAILEY
Conugal Status: Batchelor/Spinster
Death Certificate of Robert McDOWELL:
Reg No: 1915/017156
Name: Robert McDOWELL
Age: 80 yrs
Name of Father: unknown
Fathers Occupation: Governor of Gaol
Mothers name: Margaret (surname unknown)
Where born and how long in Australian colonies/states: Ireland/76 yrs in NSW
Any help finding Robert and Margaret's roots would be greatly appreciated. It must be said that this is my first foray into Irish records.
Same message is at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=272913.new#new
Many thanks in anticipation
Robert aka Aussie Karrob in chat room
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hi there
Royal oak in Carlow is just outside bagenalstown. maybe you could take a look at the irish genealogy project(IGP), I can't seem to reach it tonight.
http://www.igp-web.com/
If you just follow the links through to Bagenalstown parish baptisms, you might strike lucky.
I hope this has been some help.
all the best
pete
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G'day Pete,
Thank you for the link my friend. Like you, the link is not operating for now. I will keep trying and see what happens.
Kind regards
Robert
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hi again
maybe try this link
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Dunleckney_index.htm
it's the same page, but a different way.
I took a look, this is a catholic parish register, but there are no mcdowells on it, would he have been church of ireland? Then I thought that maybe that if he arrived in oz with his mother, she may have given him her name? but there were no mcdowells for the mothers maiden name either.
I hope this is of some help
pete
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Hello Robert
I am also a descendant of Robert McDowell. There are quite a few of us since he and Frances Elizabeth Bailey had 14 children. I am a great-great grandson.
I have attached a scan of a document which I have explaining what is known to my family about his origins. It makes interesting reading.
I also have a couple of photos of Robert McDowell and Frances Elizabeth Bailey.
I hope that this is of interest to you, perhaps we can exchange some further information.
Regards, Michael
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From Slater's directory of 1846 (http://www.failteromhat.com/slater.htm) - have a look at this link for Carlow town : Page 361 (http://www.failteromhat.com/slater/0361.pdf)
see under the section captioned 'Public Buildings, Offices, Institutions &c'
County Gaol, Barracks Street
Governor - Mr. Robert McDowell
presumably Robert's (c1836) father ?
Some parish records for Co. Carlow are due to be added to the irish Genealogy website at : http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ might be worth keeping an eye on that to see if Roberts baptism is included.
Shane
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hi i hope this gets to robert and karon, i am the great, great grandson of thomas davy of abingdon, and know quite a bit please contact
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Hello Michael,
I have not been on this site for quite a few years, sadly so. Do you have a copy of the complete text of this page that you have shown? Or a book title, or webpage of this information that would allow me to read the full story?
I hope, that you are well and enjoying life.
Hello Robert
I am also a descendant of Robert McDowell. There are quite a few of us since he and Frances Elizabeth Bailey had 14 children. I am a great-great grandson.
I have attached a scan of a document which I have explaining what is known to my family about his origins. It makes interesting reading.
I also have a couple of photos of Robert McDowell and Frances Elizabeth Bailey.
I hope that this is of interest to you, perhaps we can exchange some further information.
Regards, Michael
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You may already have this:
Death:
Robert McDowell
age:46
buried: 18 February 1854
in Dunleckney
following the births of his children from approx 1835 til 1850, Robert is listed as the Governour of the Jail. On the birth of daughter Anna he is listed as ex-jailer, and in April of 1854 on birth of daughter Roberta, his wife Jane is listed as widow of Governour of Jail.
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One more bit of info. This appears to be the marriage of Robert McDowell, the father, and his wife Jane.
Marriage:
Robert McDowell
Jane Hodgens
1834
Marriage License Bonds from Diocese of Waterford & Lismore.
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Hello Robert
I am also a descendant of Robert McDowell. There are quite a few of us since he and Frances Elizabeth Bailey had 14 children. I am a great-great grandson.
I have attached a scan of a document which I have explaining what is known to my family about his origins. It makes interesting reading.
I also have a couple of photos of Robert McDowell and Frances Elizabeth Bailey.
I hope that this is of interest to you, perhaps we can exchange some further information.
Regards, Michael
Hello Michael,
I have either forgotten this post, OR I have missed it totally. Do you have the images of Robert and Frances that you could share please. They are images that I do not have in any way shape or form. Thank you too, for the scan of the McDowell story. Very interesting indeed.
I have not been on roots for a very long time due mostly to working very remotely in the Pilbara of Western Australia.
Kind regards
Bob. (Aussie Karrob)