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Title: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: RogFromBrum on Sunday 09 December 07 10:09 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I've got a family photo which says on the back "Aunt Pem". I think Pem must be a diminutive but I've not been able to work out what for - Emma? Emily? Penny? Penelope?

I've searched www.whatsinaname.net and www.behindthename.com but not found any reference to it.

Anyone come across this given name before?

Thanks, Roger
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: 01debbie on Sunday 09 December 07 10:16 GMT (UK)
Could possibily be a shortened version of a surname.  In my first husbands family, we had Grandma Maud...as in Mawdsley

Just a thought, is it definitely PEM & not PAM?

Debbie :)
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: RogFromBrum on Sunday 09 December 07 10:33 GMT (UK)
Yes, I suppose it could be related to a surname although I don't know what that would be. Or it might be a unique nickname peculiar to the family.

However, it does definitely say Pem and not Pam.

Cheers, Roger
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 09 December 07 10:43 GMT (UK)
We've had odd diminutives in our family at times. Also, many people were called Aunty and Uncle because they were eithere cousins of parents' generation or friends of parents rather than being relatives. So cast your net wide  :)

Like Debbie, I first thought that it could be a shortened version of a surname - do you have any possibles? Pemberton, comes to mind.

Also I've come across a merging of the first two given names - could it be short for  Patricia Emily?

Gadget
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: krisesjoint on Sunday 09 December 07 10:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Roger,

There is a name Pemily - I know 3 generations of them. Pemily (shortened to Pem/Pemmy) They are the only people I have ever known with the name, but to me it is not unusual. Pem no1 told me, the name was invented by her mother who came up with it due to an old lady called Emily who lived in the street. When she heard some of the young children try to say Emily it sounded like Auntie Pemily/Pemmy and she thought it lovely and unusual and decided if she ever had a daughter she would call her Pemily. I guess names come about for all different reasons and in your case it may be a nickname, but there really are Pem/Pemily's out there..........Kris  :)
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: 01debbie on Sunday 09 December 07 10:51 GMT (UK)
To confuse matters further, my daughter, when aged about 2 or 3, took to naming relatives after their animals so she could remember who was who.  So we had a Nanny Candy, Aunty Bingo, Nanny Binki & a Nanny Fat Cat!!!

Gadget's right about 'Aunts & Uncles' too.  Maybe asking around the older relatives or maybe cousins, might jog someones memory.

Debbie :)

Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: RogFromBrum on Sunday 09 December 07 11:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone!

At least it wasn't something very obvious that I'd overlooked!

I believe it's a sister of my paternal grandmother and her maiden name was Parker. That's really all I know but you've all given me food for thought with your ideas.

Thanks, Roger
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: krisesjoint on Sunday 09 December 07 11:35 GMT (UK)
Roger,

Just been having a look and I see there are some Pemily's listed on FreeBMD so my friend was certainly not the first - dont see a Parker unfortunately.....Kris  ;)
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 09 December 07 11:36 GMT (UK)
Is there an Emily or Emma Parker, Kris?

Gadget
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: RogFromBrum on Sunday 09 December 07 11:38 GMT (UK)
Emma Parker was actually my grandmother but the picture was not of her. Emma was born in 1882.

Roger
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: Rena on Sunday 09 December 07 11:56 GMT (UK)
You can find one of my Norfolk ancestors written on various census as "Pemly" and Pemily" but when I found her original baptism it's written plain as day "Pamela".

Rena

Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: Siamese Girl on Sunday 09 December 07 12:06 GMT (UK)
There are 3 Pemilys on the IGI for Britain - but they are all submitted by LDS members, so I'd be a bit wary.

I can just imagine the poor enumerator mistaking Pemily for Pamela when spoken in thick Norfolkese ....

Carole
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: billy56 on Friday 04 January 08 17:55 GMT (UK)
Hi

My grandmother, Lucy Button, had a sister who was always called Pem and my dad therefore only ever knew her as Aunt Pem. When we started our family history we realised her name was Emily.
Karen
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: oldtimer on Friday 04 January 08 17:57 GMT (UK)
My friend's aunt Pem was really an Emily
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: Pemberton on Friday 06 January 12 02:48 GMT (UK)
Hello;
Don't know if you're still posting. But my name is Pem and it is from the family name "Pemberton."
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: billy56 on Friday 06 January 12 07:33 GMT (UK)
Hi
many thanks but your message. Continuing to research I found her name was Emily so problem solved.
Billy
Title: Re: What name could "Pem" be short for?
Post by: Cell on Friday 06 January 12 15:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,
All the girls I grew up with  up  with the  nicknames  pem  were always  Pamela

Pamela is, and has  always  been shortened to Pem  where I grew up, goes without saying (and I don't mean Pam)

Kind regards