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Title: oh no!
Post by: poppysmum on Friday 07 December 07 13:35 GMT (UK)
I've just got my grannys and my granpas lines meeting (i think)
quite far back but interesting!
i will have to do some more work to be sure i have the same family but its the same name in the same area at the same time!
what a coincidence!  :D
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: jinks on Friday 07 December 07 20:01 GMT (UK)
My Paternal Grandfather told me that my parents were
related before they married ( he did not tell me how!)

But I too am find the same surname in the same area
at the same time in both lines

Jinks
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: marie1983 on Friday 16 May 08 18:44 BST (UK)
yeah my grandma always said we had some of my dads side on my mams side too, the other day i found it. good job i'm not bothered. inbred and proud! lol
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: Diblet on Saturday 17 May 08 13:59 BST (UK)
When you think about it there were only a limited amount of families in a village so the chances of marrying someone already related in some way was quite high.

I've lost count of the number of times my family tree programme on the computer has almost blown a fuse with complicated relationships involving duplicate entries for the same perwson.  :o

Some places that were very isolated must have had several instances of "inbreeding". The results? Well, a few oddballs dotted about perhaps!!!  ;)
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: marie1983 on Saturday 17 May 08 14:02 BST (UK)
yes im glad of the " add someone already in you tree" button on ancestry.com
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: behindthefrogs on Saturday 17 May 08 14:27 BST (UK)
I have so many links between four families, on one branch of my tree, who all lived in the same village that I have drawn a net diagram to represent them visually.

David
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: perth tiger on Saturday 17 May 08 15:02 BST (UK)
i think im related to every family in rothwell w yorks more than once. i went to my cousins wedding in june last year and his wife is sure they have common ancestors.

perth
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: AnneMc on Saturday 17 May 08 18:24 BST (UK)
I  have found out that my great great grandparents were first cousins.  So not sure how to fill out the pedigree chart now.  Makes things interesting.

Cheers
Anne
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: Siamese Girl on Sunday 18 May 08 18:17 BST (UK)
I don't think it has to be geographical - the middle and upper classes were often quite keen on marrying inside the family as well - I guess because they were all in the same social circle and also because they then kept any money in the family. My husband's family have far too many first cousins marrying for their own good!  :o

Carole
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: macphail on Monday 19 May 08 15:20 BST (UK)
My sister discovered this year that the man she married was actually her 3rd cousin.

Pete
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: behindthefrogs on Monday 19 May 08 15:40 BST (UK)
I can match that; I am my own fourth cousin once removed.
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: charlotteCH on Wednesday 21 May 08 10:29 BST (UK)
I can match that; I am my own fourth cousin once removed.

How?

charlotte
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: behindthefrogs on Wednesday 21 May 08 11:34 BST (UK)
I can match that; I am my own fourth cousin once removed.

How?

charlotte

My great great grandfather married his first cousin once removed.  If you follow each of the lines you can, if you have twisted mind like me, come to the above conclusion.

David
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: SooCatt on Wednesday 21 May 08 11:40 BST (UK)
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I can match that; I am my own fourth cousin once removed.

How?

charlotte
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My great great grandfather married his first cousin once removed.  If you follow each of the lines you can, if you have twisted mind like me, come to the above conclusion.

David
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Me too David!!

Should we start a club?  ;D   ;D

Susan
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: al b on Wednesday 21 May 08 12:06 BST (UK)
  Kind of sounds like an old country song  I'm My own Grandpa :o
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: Windsor87 on Wednesday 21 May 08 12:45 BST (UK)
My great great grandparents were also first cousins. They lived in a small (very clannish) village. Were that not enough, their great grandmother married her second cousin. Furthermore, her grandparents were also second cousins. I think it would be best, for the sanity of any children, if I married away from the town!

Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: charlotteCH on Wednesday 21 May 08 12:48 BST (UK)
Probably illegal to singsuch a song these days. 
EU must have a rule about it.

charlotte
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: sharmar on Wednesday 21 May 08 13:34 BST (UK)
Several instances in my family as well!!!

Explains why there are some strange looking ones (not me I hasten to add) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: charlotteCH on Wednesday 21 May 08 13:44 BST (UK)
Several instances in my family as well!!!

Explains why there are some strange looking ones (not me I hasten to add) ;D ;D ;D

Of course not sharmar, we never thought that.

charlotte
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: al b on Wednesday 21 May 08 22:16 BST (UK)
A lot of that goes on here not in my family that I recall
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: ninkynoo on Saturday 31 May 08 12:10 BST (UK)
I always thought I was related to my daughters ex Mother-in-law through my Dads side of the family (turns out only through marriage).Now I find that we ARE related through my Mothers side.

So ,that makes me a 5th cousin once removed to my Grand daughter .

Mmmmm ,best stop looking or it could turn out there may be another connection.
Needless to say ,daughters ex Mother in law and me find it really funny.
Lin
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: nudge67 on Tuesday 03 June 08 22:31 BST (UK)
 
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I can match that; I am my own fourth cousin once removed. 


Behindthefrogs, you should post that in the 'Claim a Record' thread under 'Most Inbred'!  ;)
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: tinav40 on Wednesday 04 June 08 00:46 BST (UK)
Oh no indeed!
Recently discovered my hubby is my 6th cousin and my MOTHER -IN- LAW  ::) is my 5th once removed. Also makes my son my 6th cousin once removed.
All the responsibility of one woman in a village about 10 miles from us.
My son thankfully only has one head. I always thought my OH reminded me of my dad.
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: nudge67 on Wednesday 04 June 08 08:49 BST (UK)
Excerpt from a letter I recently sent my parents:

"Dear Mum & Dad

I have discovered that you both have a common ancestor in John de Braose (1198-1232), Lord of Bramber (in Sussex) and Gower (in Wales). Attached is a printout of how you both trace back to him, as well as a short bio of his life. His wife Margaret was a daughter of Llywelyn, Prince of Wales, whose wife Joane was an illegitimate daughter of King John. So now you both have lines of royal descent. Look in the library for the historical novel Here Be Dragons by Sharon Penman, it is based on the life of these people and is a very good read.

This therefore makes you in geneological terms 23rd cousins, once removed. The attached Table of Consanguinity http://www.heirsearch.com/table.htm may help explain how cousin terminology works, if you didn’t already understand it. It also shows the degrees of relationship. Most cultures regard anyone within 7 degrees of relationship to be family, and intermarrige with relatives of 4 degrees or less, or sharing the same surname, is strictly taboo. Remote communities with a population less than 1500 struggle to find suitable partners, so have developed intricate rules of marriage to prevent inbreeding. This is evident in some Aboriginal language groups, as well many small island societies around the world, such as Easter Island. "

Cheers
Nudge
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: Sarndra on Wednesday 04 June 08 10:47 BST (UK)
I always thought I was related to my daughters ex Mother-in-law through my Dads side of the family (turns out only through marriage).Now I find that we ARE related through my Mothers side.

So ,that makes me a 5th cousin once removed to my Grand daughter .

Mmmmm ,best stop looking or it could turn out there may be another connection.
Needless to say ,daughters ex Mother in law and me find it really funny.
Lin


My daughter and her husband  of 3 years are 4th cousins once removed :-)  They had never met before becoming a couple though and lived in different parts of New Zealand for most of their lives.  It was only when she started going out with him and i asked what his name was. (it's not overly common) that i recognised i had been corresponding with his distant relations over a decade previously. 

Sarns
www.sarndra.com
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: nudge67 on Wednesday 04 June 08 11:06 BST (UK)
years ago, i was being chatted up in Brisbane by a lovely young lass who I discovered shared my surname. I asked where she came from. When I found out she was from Mt Gambier, I said "If you are an Edwards from Mt Gambier, then we are cousins of some sort". That was embarrasing for both of us!
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: al b on Sunday 15 June 08 00:37 BST (UK)
I live in the southern part of the US andseems like everyone is related. Have to be careful who you hook up with might be cousin too close :o :o :D  al b
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: KathMc on Sunday 15 June 08 01:27 BST (UK)
This thread is too funny. I can't say I have found this yet, but I have a picture of my maternal grandmother at about 4 and she is the spitting image of me at the same age, but I look exactly like my dad. Since I received the pic, I have said my parents were related.  ;D

Kath
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: murphy60 on Sunday 15 June 08 02:52 BST (UK)
When I was a little kid, I asked my Mom,  "why do my Dad's nieces/nephews call your Mom and Dad Aunt and Uncle " ......  my Mom replied the kind of answer you give a kid when you want to end the conversation and want them to go away ......"oh look!!!! there a puppy out in the yard ........"

A few years ago I discovered "the puppy"....nothing too sorted ........  years in therapy were not required.......or not because of this, anyway   ::)

My father's mother is the daughter of my mother's grandfather's 1st wife who died. 

I would need help figuring out the cousins removed bit!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
lissa
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: Jean McGurn on Sunday 15 June 08 07:36 BST (UK)
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I have discovered that you both have a common ancestor in John de Braose (1198-1232), Lord of Bramber (in Sussex) and Gower (in Wales). Attached is a printout of how you both trace back to him, as well as a short bio of his life. His wife Margaret was a daughter of Llywelyn, Prince of Wales, whose wife Joane was an illegitimate daughter of King John. So now you both have lines of royal descent

Nudge
Having done research into William de Braose (the first Lord of Bramber) I can also say that the de Braose lineage also goes via a female to the Earl Marshall of England the Duke of Norfolk who lives in Arundel Castle.

Can't quote which female it was as I have passed all my research to the newly formed Parish History Group. However I do remember that one of the women married into the Mowbray family thence onto the Norfolk's

Jean
Title: Re: oh no!
Post by: Sarndra on Sunday 15 June 08 08:22 BST (UK)
When I was a little kid, I asked my Mom,  "why do my Dad's nieces/nephews call your Mom and Dad Aunt and Uncle " ......  my Mom replied the kind of answer you give a kid when you want to end the conversation and want them to go away ......"oh look!!!! there a puppy out in the yard ........"

A few years ago I discovered "the puppy"....nothing too sorted ........  years in therapy were not required.......or not because of this, anyway   ::)

My father's mother is the daughter of my mother's grandfather's 1st wife who died. 

I would need help figuring out the cousins removed bit!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
lissa

LOL Gawd what a  nightmare!  Do what i do...use family tree maker programme and use the kinship report..sorts it all for you LOL!!!!

Cheers
Sarndra
www.sarndra.com