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Independent Islands => Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark => Channel Islands Lookup Requests => Topic started by: MarthaJane on Wednesday 05 December 07 14:38 GMT (UK)
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I have Martha Edbrook(e) born 1821 in either Devonport or Plymouth (censuses vary). In 1841 she was unmarried and with her family in Plymouth
Edward Gibson was born about 1808 in Woolwich, Kent and 1841 unmarried and living in London
In the 1861 UK Census they are together with son Samuel born about 1845 in Jersey. Also, there is no marriage record that I can find on BMD in UK so I presume they married in Jersey. Could someone look these up for me please.
Their next child was born September 1846 in Devon so they did not stay in Jersey for long
Thank you
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Hi
There is an entry in the index for St Helier Parish Church Marriages for the period Aug 1842 to May 1845 on page 86 for Martha Charlotte Edbrooke. Edward Gibson is on the same page.
Whilst I was there I also looked up the birth of Samual Gibson. That again is in St Helier in the volume 14th Nov 1844 to 24th Dec 1845 (volume 3) on page 31.
Stewart
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Hi Stewart,
That's fantastic, thank you so very much for taking the trouble to do that for me, much appreciated.
The mystery is why they went to Jersey, in 1841 he was listed as a builder but in 1861 just as a bricklayer. (Cannot find them at all in 1851 yet although I have all subsequent years until their deaths) so I guess he had a building job over there. I cannot find any other Jersey connection in either of their families.
One further question. If I sent away for it do Jersey Marriage Certificates show bride and grooms Fathers' details? I have Martha's father and mother but have no idea of Edward's Father.
Once again, heartfelt thanks.
Martha
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Hi Martha
Yes, a MC should show both father's details.
Stewart
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Hi Stewart,
Just looked on the Net, £10 for a Cert, plus £7 for a search plus postage? Going to have to think about that! Or won't they charge me for the search if I give the dates and page number you supplied? Is that enough for them? Only used to getting UK GROs.
Not so concerned about Samuel, he died in 1862, and not a direct descendant, whereas Martha and Edward are my g.g.g. grandparents.
Regards. Martha
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Martha
You only pay for the certificate. I've already done the search for you by finding the index number, that would be the extra £7.
Stewart
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Hi Stewart,
Thanks for clarifying that. I guess I'll send away for the Certificate as it's the only way of finding out who Edward's father was.
Thank you again for your help.
Martha.
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Martha
There is another way. I can go to the Registry Office and do a lookup (they allow you to see the certificate in Jersey). I can then let you know the details. It all depends on whether you want a certificate.
The earliest I can get there though is probably Tuesday.
Stewart
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Hi Stewart
That is amazingly kind of you! I don't really need a Certificate at present although I may get it in the future. Just sent off for some other ones and with Christmas looming - got to watch the pennies.
Martha's father should be Michael Edbrooke, Shipwright, of Devon, Martha may be listed as having occupation of dressmaker/needlewoman. It's Edward's occupation, confirmation of his age and his father's name and occupation which I am anxious to learn. Plus actual date of the marriage would be nice of course.
There's no hurry, so whenever you happen to be there.
Very many thanks for the trouble you are taking.
Martha
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Morning Martha
The marriage of Edward Gibson and Martha Charlotte Edbrooke took place at St Helier Parish Church on 9th Aug 1843.
He was a bachelor and a builder by profession. He resided in St Helier but was born in Woolwich. His father was Samuel Gibson who was a shipwright.
She was a spinster and no profession was mentioned, again residing in St Helier but born in Plymouth. Her father was Michael Edbrooke and he was also a shipwright.
The witnesses were John (difficult to read) Mauger and Eleanor Elizabeth Edbrooke.
Samuel Gibson was born 4th March 1845. Parents as expected were Edward and Martha. Edward's profession was given as briquetier which literally means a brick!! Probably means he was a builder. They were living a 2, Windsor Road, St Helier.
Hope that helps.
Stewart
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Evening Stewart
Just home from work and seen your message. That's fantastic!
Eleanor (witness) was Martha's sister. I wonder if the fact that both their fathers were shipwrights that is how they met?
I did have Edward as born in Woolwich from the 1841 Census where he is listed as a builder. In 1846 in Devon, I cannot find them in 1851, from 1853 onwards they are in London, in 1861 he is just a bricklayer, in 1871 a bricklayer (infirm) and he dies in 1873.
Martha was living with her youngest child Edbrooke Francis Gibson and his family until some time between 1891 and 1900 when they moved out of the East End to Essex and she didn't go with them. In 1901 she was living in St. James Chambers, Poplar, which was a "common lodging house" aged 81, occupation needlewoman. She died Poplar 1903. Rather a sad end I think. Neither she nor any of her sisters had occupations in 1841 so I think they were reasonably well off not to have to work.
I doubt I will be able to find Samuel Gibson, Shipwright in '41 or '51 but I'll certainly try!
Once again, very, very, many thanks for your kindness in doing this for me. Hugely appreciated.
Martha