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please can somebody look up these people for me
George Damsell Married Ann E Damsell Bristol
Children
Georgina Born 1863 Bristol
William Damsell Born 1861 Bristol
Clara C Damsell Born 1872 Bristol
thank you
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Hello
Here's 1871. They're transcribed as Damrell
49 Grafton St, St Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol
George Head 37 Bargemaster Stroud
Ann E. Wife 30 Broadoak
William G. Son 10 Scholar Philips Bristol
Georgina Daur 8 Scholar Bedminster
Albert Son 6 Scholar Bristol
RG10 Piece 2562 Folio 36 page 15
Isobel
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1881 at 48 Grafton St
George Head 47 Bargeman Chalford
Ann E. Wife 40 Broadacre
Albert J. Son 15 Errand boy Bristol
Clara C. Daur 9 Scholar "
Frederick J. Son 6 " "
Catherine A. Daur 4 " "
RG11 Piece 2501 Folio 86 page 22
I can't find any of them in 1891. Let me look some more.
Isobel
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This looks like their marriage -and them in 1861
Marriage
Sept qtr 1860
Bristol
George Damsell
Anne Elizabeth Hibbard
6a 42
1861
17 Victoria St
Bristol
George Damsell head M 27 Sailor merchant Service Chalford Gloucester
Ann E wife 20 Broadoak Gloucester
RG9 1736 55 8
Suz
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I've got Albert in 1901 in Bristol
9 Frances Place
Albert Damsell Head 35 Plumbers Labourer Bristol
Annie " Wife 29 Ireland
Phoebe A. Cooney step-dau 7 Cardiff
John J. Damsell Son 2 Bristol
RG13 Piece 2363 Folio 107 page 21
Can't find anyone else.
In 1891, I've got a possible sighting for Frederick. He's listed as a 15 year old servant from Bristol, living with Joseph Spicer, a haulier. Frederick is also listed as a haulier.
RG12 Piece 1986 Folio 127 page 24
Isobel
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Hi isobel
Thank you so much for the info yes the frederick sounds like it could be the right one where was he in 1891 please
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Sorry. The address was
104B Meriton St, St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol
Isobel
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Just as a little bit extra I've found Albert's marriage to Annie Cooney.
3rd Quarter 1893 Cardiff Vol 11a page 599
Isobel
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There's a Gearge Damsell's birth registered in the Reg. Dist. of Stroud in the Dec. qtr of 1841. (See freebmd)
If you do not have his b-cert, you'll need it in order to get back further.
Chalford is in the parish of Bisley - I've seen a few Damsells in the BT's - and that's in the Reg. Dist of Stroud.
Google for GRO to find out how to order cert's on line.
Regards
Chas
P.S. I note that in the 1851 census of Bisley, Ann Damsell aged 42 is with a George aged 9 and is shown as head of the family.
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Although I consider that
If you do not have his b-cert, you'll need it in order to get back further.
If you do not have access to the 1841 census and are willing to take my word for it, the Bisley census at Shiverralls shows that George's father (or at least the person living with an Ann 30 [Wool picker] and family including a Harriett 8, Henry 6, Hannah 2, and Sarah 1) was named John Damsell aged 25 [waterman] all born in GLS. To be sure of such an assumption regarding G's father, I would obtain his b-cert.
A John Damsell's death was registered in the Reg. Dist. of Stroud in the Dec. qtr of 1844 (source - freebmd). The d-cert will tell you little more except the date, abode at death and name of the informant who might have been Ann.
Age 25 on the census means 25 to 29 inclusive so maybe John's baptism might be found in Bisley via the IGI - but do not rely on a submitted entry so go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle
Regards again - I reckon that just about completes your request!
Chas
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Hi Chas
Do you have a reference and places of birth for the 1841 census (in county Y/N) please (for completeness)?
Many thanks
Arranroots ;)
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Just my 2 cents worth - I'd get the marriage certificate that Suz found first to double check on George's father's name. The birth that Chas found in 1841 in Stroud doesn't match with all the other census information which implies more like 1837 ish, though I'd lay odds that they were related!
That means that to go further back, you might have to go through any siblings that were born after 1837, but that's jumping ahead a little :)
Isobel
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I'd get the marriage certificate that Suz found first to double check on George's father's name. The birth that Chas found in 1841 in Stroud doesn't match with all the other census information
Good point.
Had a look in the 1841 census of Chalford Lynch: found George 13 with Elizabeth 9 with Hannah D aged 44 - all born in GLS but no possible father given. 44? The enumerator's instructions were to round down to the nearest 5. Reinforces the need to find out G's father's name from a cert. of some sort.
The 1851 census shows Hannah 54 wool spinner as a widow; George 21 as a boat man and Elizabeth 17 a wool carder. All three are given as born in Bisley.
Over to you :)
Regards
Chas
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I've got Albert in 1901 in Bristol
9 Frances Place
Albert Damsell Head 35 Plumbers Labourer Bristol
Annie " Wife 29 Ireland
Phoebe A. Cooney step-dau 7 Cardiff
John J. Damsell Son 2 Bristol
RG13 Piece 2363 Folio 107 page 21
Can't find anyone else.
In 1891, I've got a possible sighting for Frederick. He's listed as a 15 year old servant from Bristol, living with Joseph Spicer, a haulier. Frederick is also listed as a haulier.
RG12 Piece 1986 Folio 127 page 24
Isobel
Useless trivia... That Spicer family was my kin...Joseph is my 2nd Great Grand Uncle.