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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Banffshire => Topic started by: Blandy on Tuesday 04 December 07 23:05 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I am new to this group and a fairly new beginner at family research so any help would be greatly appreciated...I am researching a family line of:
Charles W LYALL b:1879 MacDuff, Banff (Fireman Cooper) who married Eliza Maggie Sim LEMMON b:1879 MacDuff, Banff. They were living at 2 Simpson Place, Banff in the 1901 Census
Any information greatly accepted.
Isabel, Australia. ::)
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dont't know if you have these
1881
alexander.c.lyall age 33. b. macduff,banff. occ. fisherman. head.
margaret lyall age 32. b. ditto. wife.
charles.w.lyall age 2. b. ditto. son.
living at 32a,low shore,gamrie,banff.
reg.dist. banff.
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1891
alexander.c. lyall age 41. b. macduff,banff. occ. fisherman. head.
margaret age 41. b. ditto. wife.
charles william lyall age 12. b. ditto. son.
margaret.a. age 5. b. ditto. daughter.
alexander.c. age 3. b. ditto. son.
living at 34,low shore,gamrie,banff.
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Hello Isabel,
wozzle has kindly given the details for 1881 - 1891. It seems Charles William's birth was registered in Banff in 1878. You will be able to get this certificate from ScotlandsPeople. It will give you his parents' names and marriage date; however, you may want to get the certificate anyway as this will give you their parents. :)
hume24
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hi isabel,
hope the boys do not mind me joining the thread?
i am just wondering if alexander born 1848 was the son of alexander and jane cormack?
now if he was...
then jane cormack was christened 30/3/1809 rathven, banff and was the daughter of james and margaret thomson.
alexander was born 13/6/1807 gamrie(macduff) and was the son of james and barbara sinclair.
alexander and jane married gamrie, 20/10/1832.
1841 census- roperie street, macduff
alexander...age 35...fisherman
jane...age 30
barbara...age 7
james...age 6
george...age 3
jane...age 8 months
1851 census- 33 low shore, macduff
alexander...age 43...fisherman
jane...age 40
barbara...age 16
james...age 14
george...age 9
jane...age 7
andrew...age 5
william...age 4
alexander...age 3 (yours)
john...age 1
1861 census-30 low shore
alexander...age 53...fisherman
jane...age 54
barbara...age 27
james...age 25...fisherman
jane...age 19
andrew..age 17...fisherman
wiliam...age 15
alexander...age 13
john...age 11
1871 census- 28 low shore
alexander...age 63...fisherman
jane...age 64
barbara...age 37...domestic duties
jane...age 29...domestic duties
william...age 25...fisherman
alexander...age 23...fisherman
john...age 21...fisherman
jane hunter...age 5...grand-daughter (dau of jane and john hunter)
1881 census- 28 low shore
alexander...age 71...fisherman
jane...age 71
barbara...age 46...domestic duties
john...age 28...fisherman
jane hunter...age 15...grand-daughter
1891 census- 33 low shore
alexander...age 84
barbara...age 56...fish seller
jane hunter...age 25...domestic duties...grand-daughter
and your alexander.....
1901 census- 34 low shore
alexander...age 52...foreman fish worker
margaret...age 52
margaret...age 15
alexander...age 13
Joe
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Thank you, thank you, thank you to all off you...and yes this information is the right family...you have saved me hours of work and I am happy to get the certificates from Scotlandspeople.
Joe, I had Alexander LYALL 1808 Macduff and Jane 1807 Banff, Banffshire but did not have a last name for Jane...so many thanks.
My line I am researching is:
Alexander b: 13 /6/1807 and Jane Cormack 30/3/1809(thanks to Joe)
They had Alexander C LYALL 1848 who married Margaret WEST 1849 Macduff (don't have a marriage date).
Alexander and Margaret had Charles W LYALL 1879 Macduff who married Eliza Maggie Sim LEMMON b: 1876 Banff on the 14 Dec 1899 Banff.
Charles and Eliza had Charles W LYALL b: 20 Nov 1900 @ 2 Simpson Pl, Macduff who married Hilda URQUHART b: 12 May 1905 @ 35 Boyndie St, Banff on the 23 April 1924 @ 3 Boyndie Street, Banff.
Charles and Hilda had seven children there is two still alive and living in Australia....my two children are the Great Grand children off Charles and Hilda.
So I really appreciate all your help, can I ask if any off you are related to this family?
Any other information on any one in this line would be greatly accepted.
This is me at the moment with all this information :D Ha Ha
My many thanks again
Isabel, Australia.
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hi pal,
wonder if your margaret west was the daughter of william and elizabeth forbes?
margaret was born 6/8/1847 gardenstown, gamrie, banff
her parents, william and elizabeth were married in gamrie 22/1/1842.
1851 census- gardenstown, gamrie
william...age 29...fisherman...born gardenstown c1822
elizabeth...age 27...born aberlour, aberdeen c 1823
elspet...age 8...born 10/3/1843
william...age 5...born 23/4/1845
margaret..age 3
forbes...age 1...born 2/4/1850
1861 census- seatown gamrie (seems that the men are all away at sea)
elizabeth...age 37
margaret...age 12
forbes...age 11
elizabeth..age 2 (middle name forbes)...born 19/5/1858
1871 census- 19 seatown, gamrie
william...age 49...fisherman
elizabeth..age 48
margaret...age 23
forbes...age 21...fisherman
james...age 15...born 15/9/1855 (must get his birth cert!!!)
elizabeth...age 12
mary...age 10...born 3/4/1861
charles...age 8...born 19/12/1863
benjamin...age 8 months...born 28/7/1870
1881 census- gamrie
william...age 58...fisherman
elizabeth...age 57
james...age 24...cooper (journeyman)
elizabeth...age 21
charles...age 16...fisherman
benjamin...age 10
1891 census- 13 shore street
william..age 69...fisherman
elizabeth...age 68
mary...age 27...domestic duties
benjamin...age 20...fisherman
Joe
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hi pal,
looks like your eliza maggie sim lemmon was the daughter of john and mary sim.
john and mary married 27/6/1870 banff.
wonder if your john was the son of john and ann mearns born 20/9/1846?
and mary was the daughter of james and isabella allardice?
1881 census- 16 bridge street, banff
john...age 33...bird stuffer
mary...age 32
mary isabella...age 9..born 1/11/1871
john henry...age 7...born 10/12/1873
eliza maggie...age 5
jessie l...age 2
mackie m...age 10 months
1891 census- 16 bridge street, banff
john...age 47...taxidermist
mary...age 41
mary isabella...age 19...dressmaker
john h...age 17...apprentice engineer mechanic
eliza m.s...age 15
jessie l.e...age 13
mackie m...age 10
james s...age 7
fitzpatrick h....age 5
isabella g.a.m....age 3
elizabeth...age 1
1901 census- 40 bridge street, banff
john...age 50...taxidermist
mary...age 49
leonard...age 21...bootmaker's bookkeeper
mackie ...age 19...apprentice booker
james...age 17...apprentice iron moulder
fitzpatrick...age 15
isabella...age 12
elizabeth..age 10
john d ironside...age 3...grandson
Joe
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Hi Joe,
I have a copy of an article in a Banff newspaper in 1932 that states that: "brothers of Mrs C W Lyall Sen, (this is Margaret West) ex- Provost West and Mr C.I West uncles of Mr C W Lyall Sen" does this fit with any of your information on this family.
thanks for all your help
Isabel, Australia.
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My gtgrandmother was Elizabeth Forbes West, b. 19/5/1858. I am relatively new to this. The census information is much appreciated. I have more on Elizabeth and her family.
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[quote author=lawrenceb My gtgrandmother was Elizabeth Forbes West, b. 19/5/1858.
Hello Lawrenceb,
I sent you a PM (private message)with my email attached...... I am doing my family research on Elizabeth Forbes West's sister Margaret and happy to share what information i have with you.
Kind regards
Isabel
Australia
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Hi Isabel,
I emailed last night, must be lost in cyberspace! I am PMing you after writing this.
Barb
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Hi,
I was wondering if any of you have gone back further with your West & Lyall families?
I have Andrew West, b 1733, and Margaret Lyal b 1735, having children: Elspet 1756, Mary 1763, Margaret 1763, Sarah 1763, Christian 1766 & Anne 1770 in Gamrie, Banff.
Regards,
Grothenwell
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I have a 2xgt grandfather, William West, b. approx 1822, whose father was George West, mother Elizabeth Wiseman. He died in Gardenstown in 1899, and I assume he was born there. I haven't yet worked on George and Elizabeth. I don't know if this hooks up with any of your people.
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Hi Lawrence,
I don't have any link to the Wests/Wisemans of Gardenstown, but if you go on to the anesfhs ancestor chart index http://anesfhs.org.uk/download.htm#AncChart and look under the W's for those surnames you'll see that there are quite a few members with those names, probably with the same individuals as you. You can contact the ANESFHS and I think they'd be able to help with further research of your names.
Good luck
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Hi there
Saw your post regarding Lyall/Lemmon. I am married to the eldest son of Charles William David Lyall, eldest son of Charles William and Hilda Urquart. We are interested also in finding out more about the family! We have three children who are, of course, also great grandchildren of Charles and Hilda. We know Jimmy and Chris in Austalia are still alive.
Hope to hear from you!
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Hello,
Great to hear from you. I have quite a lot of information on this family and happy to share with you.
Uncle Jimmy past away some years ago now, Uncle Carney is still alive and Chris who is my childrens grandmother tell you more when you email me.
Isabel
Australia
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Hello
Thanks for your message - great to hear from you! Your email address was blocked and I have to send three messages before I can use the Personal Message System.
So this is message number two!
Sorry, got it wrong about Uncle Jimmy still being alive. Spoke to my Mother-in-law last night (Barbara) and she said it's Carney and, of course, Chris, who are still with us.
Brenda :D
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Looking for any information regarding the families of Charles William Lyall and Hilda Urquart of Macduff, Banffshire.
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Hi Brenda,
I don't know how to send a PM so if you know how can you send me your email address and I will give you the info that I have.
Say hello to Auntie Barbara for me.
Do get in touch,
Isabel
Australia
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Hi, if you click on the green "scroll" on the left hand side of your screen you'll be able to post a private message (p.m.)!
Regards,
flst
:)
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