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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northumberland => England => Northumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: patrexjax on Tuesday 04 December 07 00:54 GMT (UK)
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Hello Rootschatters! I recently obtained a death certificate of a probable relative, but I can't seem to fit him into my tree. :'( The death certificate for Richard SPOOR is dated 2 December 1851, stating that Richard died at 7 Claremont Place in the sub-district of St. Andrew in Newcastle at the age of 56. Occupation: Gentleman; cause of death: disease of the heart. The informant is D.D. Main, 13 Elsdon Place in attendance at time of death. This is all I know about Richard Spoor; I am hoping that some keen-eyed Rootschatter can find him in 1851 in Newcastle living with his family. Thank you! Pat
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Hi Pat,
Trouble finding him in 1851 but there is this chap in 1841 who seems to be a man of means...
HO107/299/14 fol.14 p.23
Whitburn Village, Durham
Richard Spoor 40 Ind. N
Charles " 5 Y
Jane Farrer 20 N
Isabella Ford 35 F.S. N
Ann Knott 20 F.S. Y
Barbara
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Hello Barbara, Yes, it looks like it could be "my" Richard Spoor in 1841, but the only Spoor with him could be a nephew, perhaps. I suspect he is tied in with my Spoor lot who generally hailed from the Whickham area; however, many migrated into Newcastle to ride the wave of the British Industrial Revolution. I am still hoping he can be found in 1851, but I do thank you for this additional information. :) Pat
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Pat,
Your Man of Mystery...... So Richard died in December 1851. at 7 Claremont Place, Newcastle
Nine months earlier the 1851 census showed the residents of that address ( 2405-468-24) to be William Shield, a publisher and print seller, and his family. No sign of any Spoor !
You wrote that the "informant" D.D. Main lived at 13 Elsdon Place.
On C1851 a David D Main lived at 13 ELDON STREET
(2405-457-3). He was Scotland-born was was "Secretary to the Whittle Dean Water Company"
House numbers 1-9 were Eldon Place, numbers from 10 upwards were Eldon Street ( DD Main and family were still there in C1861 -3818-28-5-, when it was 13 Eldon Place.
You mentioned Spoor roots in Whickham. I noticed Charles Spoor on 1861.. was born Whitburn.. Barbara's info shows the Spoor duo to be in Whitburn on C1841.
That C1841 showed Charles to have been born in Co Durham, but Richard not !
Trivia Angle... you mention folk moving from Whickham to Newcastle to etc... but there were probably many similar opportunities to be had in Whichham area, without the need to cross into Newcastle.
Michael Dixon,
Newcastle
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Hello Michael, Thank you so much for the effort in providing extra information on Richard Spoor, the address and the informant. For the time being, he shall apparently remain my mystery man. May I take this opportunity to wish you and yours a happy holiday season. :) Pat
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hello
richard spoor of whitburn was the mayor of sunderland. He purchased whitburn house from my ancestor william wilkinson in 1834. William was also a gentleman and I can't locate any records for his birth either. You might want to check the marriage bond allegations on family search for some more clues.
Sunderland echo mentions him in an article called village's treasure trove
If you goto google books and serach for a book called
a genealogical and heraldic dictionary of the landed gentry of great britain and ireland, by sir bernard burke, ulster king of arms. you want volume 2 page 1412 on the page SPOOR OF WHITBURN tells you the lineage of the family.
Might help to prove a link. I'm sure if you google search rishard spoor mayor of sunderland you will get lots more information also
Good luck
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it says in another book richard spoor of whitburn died december 2 1851 age 56 and was interred ay sunderland. He married maria eliza fowen, only daughter and heiress of richard graydon, of whitburn house. Not sure why she has a different surname but this information is also on google books
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Hello jwilko! Thank you so much for the additional information which has reached me on the road. As soon as I return home, I will pursue your leads. Sincerest thanks! Pat
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There are lots of books mentioning richard spoor of whitburn. In 1842 he had a pistol duel with another gentleman in marsden by the name of joseph john wright.
Richard also declined a knighthood.
Hope you can prove a connection
John
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the gentleman's magazine volume 37 mentions Richards death and has him living in Newcastle at death
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Hello jwilco, Again, thanks for your most gracious assistance! I have looked at the Google books entry which describes landed gentry, including Spoor of Whitburn. That source indicates that Richard Spoor's ancestors actually came form Cornwall! At this point, I can see no connection to my group who are first spotted in Whickham and Ryton in County Durham in the 1600's. However, I will keep an open mind about any possible connection that may be found at another point in time! Again, sincerest thanks for your help. ;D Pat
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research by Patricia J Storey and published by Sunderland Antiquarian Society gives:
Richard Spoor b Newcastle 24 Sept 1794, son of Robert a draper and Sarah ms Cropton. Married Maria Eliza Towen only dau of Richard Graydon. Died Newcastle 2 Dec 1851 buried Sunderland churchyard. A town Councillor in 1835, then from 1847-48, Mayor of Sunderland 1837 relelected 1837. ( the second mayor). Father moved from Newcastle to Sunderland in late 1790's
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Hello KatyG and THANK YOU so very much for this information. Armed with this, I am certain I can link him into my family. Sincerest thanks for helping solve a very old puzzle! :) patrexjax
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My pleasure. I am currently researching the Mayors of Sunderland, I am now trying to track down a picture of him.
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Hello KatyG, Thanks agin for the information; I regret that I do not have photos which would help you. I am wondering if you have any additional information about Richard Spoors grandparents and/or his wife and children. He is proving to be elusive to tie in to my Spoor tree, most of whom were from Whickham and Ryton in County Durham. A fair number, however, did move over to the Eastrly part of the county; others went to Newcastle. Please keep me advised of your progress and I wish you success in your endeavor. Sincerely, patrexjax
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KatyG - I've sent you a PM regarding more information on Richard Spoor. Sincerely, patrexjax
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Hi,
Just new here as I googled a relative of mine Ambrose Harding Spoor of Alexandria,west Dumbartonshire. I saw you were keen to find out more about him a while back. Are you still interested?
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Hello and welcome to Rootschat! Yes, I am definiely intereted in ANY Ambrose Harding Spoor, as they are all related to me! Sincerely, patrexjax
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Well he was my Great Grandfather. My Great Grandmother , Elizabeth Strutt Spoor was born today , 11/11/1883 and they married about 1912. I have never now much about him as he died after about a year of marriage, although his wife, my great gran lived to be 105!
We still live inAlexandria and I'm sure he is buried in the Cemetery here. I can check with my mum.
Do you live in England. What is your connection?
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Hello again Singaporegirl! Ambrose Harding Spoor was my first cousin 1x removed. This website has a policy of not discussing details of living persons. But, there is a system of "PM" (personal messages) which we can use to communicate privately with each other. Please reply to this message as you have been and that will give you a total of 3 messages in the system; then, I will be able to send you a "PM" and I will gladly share ALL details on what I know AND I look forward to learning more bout his descendants. ;D Most sincerely, patrexjax
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Hello Patrexjax,
Thanks for guidance re the info accepted on the sight.I look forward to receiving a PM from you re my Great Grandfather.