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		Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: lawlargo on Monday 03 December 07 10:56 GMT (UK) 
		
			
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				Can anyone help me find the McGirles? Richard McGirle and his wife Ann (nee Livingstone) were living in Greenock, Renfrewshire in 1875 at the time of their daughter Amelia's marriage to Thomas Beckett.   
			
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				Hello, and welcome
 
 The best thing to do is list what you know, and what exactly you want. By the way, have you tried www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) ? You have to pay, but you can get so much information, especially through birth, marriage and death certificates, that it's a worthwhile visit!
 
 I looked on ancestry (which doesn't show the Scottish census images, so we have to deal with transcriptions) and there's a possible sighting of the family in 1871 - that is if Richard is a shoemaker. They've been transcribed as MARGARET, but that could have been read as Margt, which I could persuade myself could have been bad handwriting of McGirle :-\
 
 6 Hamilton St, Greenock
 Richard  Margaret Head 54 Shoemaker Ireland
 Ann             "        Wife   51                    Ireland
 Maria           "        Daur  22                    Ireland
 AMELIA        "        Daur  15                    Ireland
 Samuel        "        Son    13                    Greenock
 John <no last name> Son-in-law Labourer Ayrshire
 Mary Janet  <no last name> Boarder                  Ireland
 McCrnest               Son  11  Greenock
 Albert McCrnest     Daur 5       " (Yes, it really does say daughter!!)
 Elizabeth "             Servant 24   Ireland
 Ellen        "             Daur      19   Greenock
 Jane        "             Daur      10        "
 
 I would say that this is definitely a census transcription that needs to be checked against the image!!
 
 Do any of these names strike a chord?
 
 
 Isobel
 
 
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				I think that I might have found them in 1861, again mistranscribed, but it is much closer to McGirle. Of course, I could have completely the wrong family!!
 
 6 Watsons Lane, Greenock West
 Richard McGarrell  Head 44 Shoemaker Ireland
 Ann           "          Wife  40                        Ireland
 Elisa Jane   "         Daur 23 Sower          Ireland
 Mary Ann    "         Daur 15 Cotton Mill worker  Ireland
 Maria          "         Daur  13 Scholar          Ireland
 Amelia         "         Daur   6 Scholar          Ireland
 Samuel       "          Son     3                      Greenock
 
 Isobel
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				Hi Stuizzy
 
 Many thanks for getting back to me. I had tried to find them many times without success on Scotlandspeople - when I keyed in Margaret instead of McGirle I got both the 1871 and 1861 censuses. I know now why I couldn't access their birth and marriage records as they were from Ireland. I've had no luck with other branches of the family who hail from Ireland. I've tried several Irish sites with little or no success - you don't know a more reliable site, do you? I'm a relative newcomer and still have an awful lot to learn.
 
 Cheers!
 
 
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				Ireland is a notoriously difficult place from which to get family information. Why don't you try posting some specific questions on the Ireland boards here on rootschat. Have a read through some of them as well. I'm sure that there will be some useful information for you there.
 
 Good luck
 Isobel
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				Hi Isobel 
 
 Thanks for getting back to me. I've just discovered Rootschat so I didn't know there was an Ireland board - I'll check it out.
 
 Cheers
 Margaret
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				Hi Isobel
 
 How do I access the Ireland board on Rootschat?  :-\
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				Try out http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,50.0.html
 
 Otherwise, go to the rootschat homepage, and have a rummage through the listed areas there. I'm sure that someone, somewhere will have an idea of where you can start and push you in the right direction anyway.
 
 Good luck!
 Isobel