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Title: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston? COMPLETED WITH THANKS!
Post by: patrexjax on Monday 03 December 07 01:16 GMT (UK)

Hello Rootschatters! I can't seem to find Winifred Bessell's birth nor her being with any of her family before she married Albion Percy Alderson in June 1899 in Kingston, Surrey.  Based on her year of marriage, as well as her husband's birth year (1871) I am thinking she should be in the same time frame. However, I cannot seem to find her birth in freeBMD nor can I find her as a single girl in 1881 in Kingston, Surrey. Obviously, it appears that her name must have been mis-transcribed.  :'(    Following her marriage in Kingston in 1899, she and her husband had children through 1915 at least - all born in Kingston, Surrey.  Can anyone help me find her? Thank you kindly!  Pat

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston?
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 03 December 07 01:38 GMT (UK)

Hi Pat,

1891 RG12/611. Folio 10. Page 19/20
92 Kings Road, Kingston Surrey
Bessell
Frank    head 44 Clerk (CC)   Surrey Chertsey
Laura    wife  38                     Warwick Birmingham
Frank L.  son 15  Scholar        Surrey Kingston
Mowbray  "   14       "                   "         "
Winifred  dau 13      "                  "         "
John H    son   8       "                  "         "
Philip        "     5       "                   "         "
Ludlow S. Hounsell visitor s 21 Commission Agent Kent, Catford Bridge
Alice Jacobs servant  s 17 General Servant Domestic  Sutton Suffolk


Birth on freebmd 1877 Kingston Dec Qu 2a 300

Barbara   :)

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston?
Post by: patrexjax on Monday 03 December 07 01:42 GMT (UK)

Hello Barbara, THANK YOU!  ;D  Once again, you are my rescuer!  Thanks for all you do for all of us. It may be premature, but do have a wonderful holiday season!  Pat

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston?
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 03 December 07 02:00 GMT (UK)

can't find them in 1881, but this looks like Frank in 1871:

 RG10/859 Folio 47 Page 29   
Ashbourne Cottage, 9 Albert Rd West, Kingston on Thames, Surrey
BESSELL
Frank    Head       24 Manager of Newspaper? Chertsey Surrey     
Mary     Moth Wid 63                         Middlesex Islington   
Eliza       Sister un 32                                     "        Clerkenwell   
Mary A     Sister un 29 Postal Telegraph Supert.      "         
Kate      Niece un 15 Scholar               Middlesex    "
George IVES Visitor un 34 Commercial Clerk  Chertsey Surrey

Will have another look 2morrow

Barbara

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston? COMPLETED WITH THANKS!
Post by: patrexjax on Monday 03 December 07 02:14 GMT (UK)

Hi again!  Hmmmmm.....looking very good! :)  Pat

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston? COMPLETED WITH THANKS!
Post by: exozguy on Sunday 10 August 08 17:58 BST (UK)

Hi Pat
Browsing in Google and found this site so I joined.  Saw your question about Winnifred Bessell, who is my 2nd cousin twice removed, answered by Barbara.  I have a few more details and a photo of W with her husband and mother Laura and more Bessell information if you are interested.
Brian

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston? COMPLETED WITH THANKS!
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 11 August 08 01:10 BST (UK)

Hi Brian,

Welcome to Rootschat!   :D

That's very good news for Pat, I see that I never did find the family in 1881, do you have the details?

Barbara  :)

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston? COMPLETED WITH THANKS!
Post by: patrexjax on Monday 11 August 08 16:03 BST (UK)

Hello Barbara, Sorry for the delay in posting a reply, but I was busy trying to gather information on this family.   ??? I gets complicated, but I will try to make it brief -- there were TWO Thomas Aldersons born about the same time in the NorthEast of England and each married a woman named Elizabeth from County Durham.  I was getting more details on the Thomas A.(lbion) Alderson, age 37 in the 1881 census....That gent and his wife and children do belong to Brian's line.  Sadly, I have now concluded that the "other" Thomas Alderson, age 34 and his family are "mine."  So, although Brian and I are not related in this generation of Aldersons, perhaps there will be a link a wee bit further back.  Also, perhaps it was serendipity that led Brian to Rootshat!   ;D  Thanks for your help, Barbara.   Sincerely, Pat

Title: Re: Winifred Bessell b. in 1887? in Kingston? COMPLETED WITH THANKS!
Post by: exozguy on Monday 11 August 08 18:58 BST (UK)

Hi Barbara

Have the family in 1851 census  through 1901 but 1881 missing. Should have mentioned that my Bessell family originated in Mitcham, Surrey but back in the earlier centuries the name was spelled Beswell/Biswell and several variations but when they drifted to London it became Bessell, suppose it depended on how the clerk/priest writing the name down heard the pronunciation of the speaker.

Brian