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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) => Topic started by: fiona g on Saturday 01 December 07 16:08 GMT (UK)
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Please could a 1871 census look up be checked for John Spence married to Ann nee Leishman East Lothian area poss Yester or Haddington.Childrens names Matilda,Agnes,Jane and John.Would love any info for above. Thanks
Fiona
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Hello Fiona
1871 Browns Close Court Street Haddington Burgh reg No 709/1
Ed 6 Page 7 Household schedule 38 Line 11 Roll CSSCT1871-172
John Spence aged 35 Head Occup Groom B Crieff Perthshire
Ann " " 24
Jane " " 3
Agnes " " 2
Hope this is the one.
Regards Pam
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Thank you Pam thats the one I was looking for.
Fiona
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Hello Fiona
1871 Browns Close Court Street Haddington Burgh reg No 709/1
Ed 6 Page 7 Household schedule 38 Line 11 Roll CSSCT1871-172
John Spence aged 35 Head Occup Groom B Crieff Perthshire
Ann " " 24
Jane " " 3
Agnes " " 2
Hope this is the one.
Regards Pam
I’m related to Spences’ from Crieff (ex Co. Donegal, Ireland). I wasn’t aware of a presence in the town as early as this. (1836?). Maybe no connection, but I’d like to learn more about this John Spence. Thanks.
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There are two baptisms of Spences in Crieff, in 1833 and 1835. See screenshot from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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There are two baptisms of Spences in Crieff, in 1833 and 1835. See screenshot from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Wow, that’s really something, as I’m also a Jack from Crieff ??? Thanks—I think! :D
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There are two baptisms of Spences in Crieff, in 1833 and 1835. See screenshot from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Any chance of a look-up to establish:
1. Are Janet/Jean one and same (seems likely).
2. A marriage which gives Janet/Jeans’s parents?
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It looks very likely that they are one and the same. I think you'd be safe enough making that assumption.
There's a record of the marriage of John Spence and Jane Jack in 1830 in the parish of Bolton. That's Bolton in the county of East Lothian, not any of the Boltons in England. It is very unlikely to contain any information about their parents.
In 1841 John Spence, 30, born East Lothian; Jane Spence, 35; Charles Spence, 8; and John Spence, 6 are in Morham, East Lothian.
The 1851 census lists in Haddington John Spence, 45, jobbing gardener, born East Lothian; wife Jane, 54, born Crieff, Perthshire and son John, 16, born Crieff, Perthshire
In the 1861 census John Spence, 49, jobbing gardener, born Haddington, and his wife Jane, 60, born Crieff, are in Haddington.
There's a death of Jane Spence or Jack in Haddington in 1864, and a death of a John Spence in the same year and place who may be her husband.
To see any or all of the originals of these documents, go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, buy a few credits, and use them to view the images of the documents. They cost 6 credits (GBP 1.50) per image.
The death certificates ought to tell you the full names of the couple's parents including their mothers' maiden surnames, but the latter aren't in the index so they may be missing from the documents.
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That’s very good of you, many thanks indeed. I don’t think Spence is related to me, although Janet/Jean most likely will be. My Jack family have been in that area for centuries. My Spence line arrived for the first time in the late 1800s from Ulster I’m pretty certain. Thanks again for your help and advice.