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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: genefinder on Saturday 01 December 07 08:12 GMT (UK)
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would like to know how to get a birth in VDL if it can not be found by BDM.William was born 1833 Father John Faux or Fox
Granted land in tasmania have no mothers name found his fathers on his marriage cert.William married Ellen? Orange nsw .2nd wife Clara Mccarthy Born Ipswich Queensland.
Liz
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Here's William's marriage to Clara McCarthy in NSW.....
1863 William FAUX married CLARA MACCARTHY at FORBES reference number 2294
....dee
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lizpen,
You seem to have posted this request twice??
See also http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,271312
I can only repeat what I (think I might) have said previously ...
Do link to duplicate posts.
And please do, do provide to helpful RootsChatters all the details of info you already have.
This will mean that helpful RootsChatters aren't spending their time searching for, typing up, and posting information which you already have ...
Etc ...
JAP
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Hi Lizpen
This is a possibility - allowing for mistranscription/pronunciation errors.
The following from http://www.familysearch.org/ IGI - extracted record
WILLIAM <FAWKES>
22 SEP 1833 St Philips, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Father: JOHN FAWKES
Mother: MARY
and from http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
V1833306 19/1833
FAWKES William
Father JOHN
Mother MARY A
You could purchase a transcription or if you wish a certificate - details on the website. A transcription is a quicker and cheaper alternative
Cheers
cando
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Liz,
It really would help us to help you if you were to expand on the information you already have.
For instance, what certificates do you have? What are the details on them? What details do you have of the Tasmanian land grant. How do you know that Clara was born in Ipswich Q? Why do you think that William was born in VDL? Do you have information about William's children? Etc, etc. etc ...
Every little bit of information you provide might just help RootsChatters to help you ...
JAP
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Hi Liz :)
Do you have these -
6329/1856
FAUX Unnamed male
Father William
Mother Eleanor [?1st wife]
District Orange
8221/1865
FAUX Clara
Father William
Mother Clara
District Dubbo
Can't see a death for Eleanor or as you have named her, Ellen
Every little bit helps :) :)
Cheers for now
Cando
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Hi Cando,
That's great!
Let's hope that Liz can confirm or deny ...
FAUX, FAWKES, FOX - who knows ...
If they stuck with FAUX that would be really useful!
Cheers,
JAP
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Liz
Further to William and Clara's marriage:
FAUX, William, (30, carrier, born Tas, widower, son of John) married to Clara McCARTHY, (16, born Qld, dau of John (publican) and Mary (Quinn)) at Methodist Forbes NSW on 12 June 1863. Witnesses: R.P. McMahon, Jane McMahon.
Before you get too excited, I am not a relative but found these details some years ago while doing an index of early Forbes marriages.
Gold had been found in Forbes in June 1861 and at the peak of the rush there was estimated to be about 30,000 people at Forbes, not all miners, but carriers, storekeepers, wine sellers etc. The main rush was 1861, 1862 and 1863, then other gold rushes saw a lot of these move on.
Cheers
Jean
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Thank
you Jean that is my William Faux I have the Marriage cert.It did not have that much info .
As far as i know the name was kept at Faux
Although later years the family vanishes from nsw.
William and Clara's daughter Annie married William Jones Coach driver at Cowra.cant find the date.
Liz
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Here you are Liz
From http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
4163/1889
JONES William
FAUX Annie
District COWRA
Liz could you please detail all the info about the family - it helps up to identify them in the indexes. Where was Annie born?
Cheers
Cando
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hi cando
Annie Faux was born about 1867 have no birth on her but Clara her sister was born 1866 dubbo
Annie married william Jones 1889 Cowra
William was born 1866 Ovens river Vic.
Williams father James Jones Mother Jane Hughes.
Liz
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Liz
As you are probably aware, there were two ? three? or more William Jones in Forbes in the 1870s and 1880s. One of them was a mailman:
JONES, William, mail contractor, Sheriff St (1872 Grevilles P O Dir)
JONES, W, mail contractor, North Hill (1875-76 Grevilles)
I'm fairly sure he had the contract for the Forbes - Cowra run, but I would have to confirm that.
Then there was:
William Jones, auctioneer, Lachlan St (1872 Grevilles P O Dir) (1875-76 Grevilles) who I think was also the storekeeper, in Forbes since the start of the gold rush in 1862:
Not sure if he may have been the secretary of the local school board at one stage. Also his 'wife' was Lucy Vickery. William Effingham Jones, 89, died in 1908, born England, arrived Australia when 19, known as "Hoppy". Twice married.
So if he was born in England in about 1819, that cuts him out.
and
then there was William Parry Jones, who had land between Forbes and Cowra:
JONES, to William Parry and Maria:
1872 Henry J;
1874 William Peter;
1875 Emma Catherine;
1877 Ann Maria T;
1880 Bridget Ireton.
JONES, William Peter, son of Willam Parry and Maria Mooney, died at Forbes on 25 July 1875, aged 15m 4d.
JONES, William Parry, 1911, aged 80 ie born about 1831.
JONES, Mrs Maria - obit F.T. 22 Aug 1919. Born 1848 IRE, marr Grenfell in 1871 to William Parry JONES. Settled at Tomanbil till husband's death in 1911.
A bit more trivia to confuse the issue....
Jean
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Hi Jean
Would that mail run be by horse and carriage as my william Jones was a coach driver,he lived in Nyngan in 1892 where his daughter amy was born.cannot find much about him.
Liz
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Liz
I knew I had seen the mail contracts somewhere:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/aus-nsw-west/2006-08/1156723793
Have you enquired on the NSW-West Mailing List - it covers Nyngan.
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-NSW-WEST.html
Jean
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Hi Liz
A few more for you
26521/1890
JONES Charles W
Father William
Mother Annie
District Nyngan
26818/1891
JONES Edith J
Father William
Mother Annie
District Nyngan
27265/1892
JONES Amy M
Father William
Mother Annie
District Nyngan
hi cando
Annie Faux was born about 1867 have no birth on her but Clara her sister was born 1866 dubbo
Annie married william Jones 1889 Cowra
William was born 1866 Ovens river Vic.
Williams father James Jones Mother Jane Hughes.
Liz
Here is William JONES birth from Victorian bdm - 1869 not 1866.
JONES William
Father: James
Mother: Jane HUGHES
Birth Place: BRIGHT
Year: 1869
Reg Number: 10504
Clara was born in 1865 - I gave you the reg details in a previous post.
Liz are you searching the births deaths and marriages on
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/servlet/bdm_home
You may think me a little on the fussy side but I think there is a real need to validate where possible, all information before you move ahead.
Cando
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Hi
I doubt if the information on the link given would be your William JONES mail contractor in 1880 - your William was only born 1869 and therefore only 11 years of age in 1880. The contract was in the name of William P JONES and it was a horseback trip not coach.
William P. Jones, of Cowra.
Cowra, Goolagong, and Forbes; 58mls; 3 times a week; Horseback; £148; 31
Dec., 1880.
Cheers
cando
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Liz, It really does help if you are precise with dates and other information. And it helps if you provide all the information you have - and specify the source.
Otherwise it is an uphill job trying to help- as cando and jeanlit have so wonderfully been doing.
From the Vic BDMs:
*James JONES (born Armagh) married Jane HUGHES (born Liverpool) 1866, #2415
The certificate (and that of the birth of their son William) could be downloaded immediately (for a fee) from the Vic BDM site at:
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/
James JONES & Jane HUGHES had:
*Margaret Jane b at Morses Ck 1867 #16993
*William b at Bright 1869 #10504
*Isaac Hughes b at Brighton 1870 #25010
*George b at Brig 1872 #18238
*John b at Bright 1874 #17850
*Samuel James b at Br ig 1876 #17835
*Joseph b at Br ig 1878 #13699
*Jemima b at Bright 1880 #688
Spending some time on the free online NSW BDM site at:
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au
would be worthwhile. You could check out all the FAUX bdms (and could try variant spellings) ...
Regards,
JAP
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Dear rootschatters
thank you for your help have spent a lot of time on BDM if I had the info of annie faux i would not be after it.there must not be a birth on her.I am putting on as much as i can Jap sometimes one does not have much to go on.
Liz
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Dear rootschatters
thank you for your help have spent a lot of time on BDM if I had the info of annie faux i would not be after it.there must not be a birth on her.I am putting on as much as i can Jap sometimes one does not have much to go on.
Liz
Liz I think you may be correct - her birth was not registered. I have searched using all name variations and wildcards but sadly nothing and her age on her marriage certificate may not be correct - her husband's age did not tally with his birth registration.
Cheers
cando
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Hi Jean and other posters. I'm after information about Clara's parents - John McCarthy and Mary Quinn (my ancestors). I have limited information about them including John being born about 1818 and Mary about 1826 and Mary's death in 1860. Jean - I read your post about John being a publican. Did the Forbes early marriage record list John or Mary as a publican? Any other information about John or Mary greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mark
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Hello all.
I also am searching for Annie Faux. I believe her to be my g grandmother. Can anyone please tell me about who the mother was. Annie (or violet annie) as she went by listed william vaux as her father and only a last name of Allen for mother. I have further info about her whereabouts after this time for any who are interested. And if its the same one. Please when did william die. I have him released from Bathurst prison in 1860 for abduction.
thanks