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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: lily of the valley on Saturday 01 December 07 07:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'm looking for information on William Lannary. He was a born about 1915 in Glasgow. I don't have much information about him other than he was in the army . He joined the Royal Scots Fusilers aged 18 where he met my father and through him married my fathers sister. He later joined the SAS. He was known to our family as Buddy. He never spoke of his life in Scotland so I have no information about his parents, siblings etc.
He settled in Aldershot, Hampshire.
Is there anyone out there who knows of his life in Glasgow?
A big thank you to everyone who replied to my post. I now have the information I needed on the Lannary family.
Lily of the valley
Australia
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On ScotlandsPeople there are only 2 x William Lannary - one born 1911 in Gardgadhill Glasgow, the other in 1916 in Cadder.
You'd be able to order copy of the birth records from SP for £10 each.
Depending on how reliable your date of 1915 is, the 1916 record looks likely.
This would give you parents names and from that, you could possibly find siblings.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
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Hi Daval75
Thank you for answering my query. I will apply for the 1916 birth certificate for William Lannary as that is around the time I thought that he was born. If it turns out to be incorrect I will apply for the other one.
From the information you gave me Lannary doesn't appear to be a common surname. Is it a Scottish name?
Regards
Lily of the valley
Australia
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I'm not sure of the origin of the name - it's a new one to me.
Flannery or O'Flannery are Irish names so it's possibly a derivitive of one of them - I'm guessing though.
Good luck - hope the record you apply for is the correct one.
Dave
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Hi,
Just spotted your post. My ggrandmothers sister married into a Lannery family and lived in the Garngadhill area of Glasgow at the same time. It's possible there might have been a link between the Lannary and Lannery's in the area or even a different written spelling of the same family surname. As far as I know the Lannery's originally came from Ireland, not sure where. There is also a William Lannery on Scotlands People born 1917 Garngadhill.
Good Luck
Duncan
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Hi DuncanM
Thank you for replying to my post.
I have ordered William's birth certificate, it should be here tomorrow or Monday. A friend of mine here in Australia found the information on Scotlands People. She told me that the Lannary's appear on the 1901 census for Scotland and aren't on the 1891 census. So they must have moved from Ireland during that period. I think his name was Joseph, he and his wife were born in Ireland but it didn't say where. His occupation was a pipe maker (as in smoking) and the women in the family were pipe finishers. The place of his birth was Glasgow but it probably was Garngadhill as the time frame fits.
Once I get the certificate I will let you know his parents and then you can tell me if the names appear in your tree.
Regards
Lily of the valley Australia
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Hi Again,
it's hard to guess if William hasn't left any details about his family. The Lannery's aren't directly part of my family tree so info is scarce but I'll ask about the older members of the family and see if they have any info. I'll have a look at the census' and see if I can see any tie up there as well.
My greatgrandmother's sister married Thomas Lannery in 1904 in Renfrewshire (family moved back and forth between Barrhead and Glasgow). Thomas was born around 1878 but not sure if born in Glasgow or Ireland. I'll have a closer look and let you know what I find.
Good Luck
Duncan
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and again,
had another quick look and the Lannery's and Lannary's in Garngadhill look to be the same family with different surname spelling's when written down. Thomas and Joseph are both sons of (pipe maker) Joseph Lanna/ery and Ann Mullan. All stayed in Bright Street where my ggrandmother and her family lived.
Difficult to say if the William your looking for would be from these families without more info. I'll pm you the stuff I have if I can.
Good Luck
Duncan
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Hi again Duncan
I have found the marriage certificate for William Lannary and Elsie Bentley. My father's sister. They were married in Calder 3rd quarter 1941. I knew that they married not long after my parents but I didn't know where. I will apply for their marriage certificate as soon as I can. Once I get that plus Williams birth certificate I will know a bit more of the puzzle!
I will keep you posted.
Regards Lily
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Hi Duncan
Finally yesterday I received William Lannary's birth certificate. I ordered it the middle of Feb, I don't know why it took so long. William's father was Joseph Lannary, born in Antrim Northern Ireland, mother Charlotte Callaghan born in Glasgow. Married in St Rollox District 23/8/1904.
A friend here in Australia found Joseph's parents. They were Joseph born 1851 in Ireland, married Ann Mullane born 1853. Children Patrick born 1871, Thomas born 1877, William born 1879 Joseph born 1885 and Ellen born 1887 all in Antrim ireland.
My friend found this information on Scotlands people as I don't belong to it.
Let me know if any of these people appear in your tree.
Regards
Lily of the valley
Australia
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Hi,
I have found on the 1913/14 Glasgow Valuation Roll, Thomas Lannery, tenant, labourer at 22 Bright Street, rent £5 5s per annum. At 28 Bright Street, Patrick Lannery, tenant, labourer and on same annual rent.
http://www.theglasgowstory.co.uk/imageview.php?inum=TGSV06119
Tom
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Hi Tom
Thank you for the information you posted. The William Lannary 1916 married into my family, but as I said we knew nothing about him until friday when I recieved the certificate.
I will have a look at the website today and see what I can find.
Again thank you.
Regards
Lily of the valley
Australia
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Hi, just saw your posts and have some information that will most likely assist you both with William and Thomas Lannary.
William and Thomas were indeed the sons of Joseph Lannary and Johannah Mullane.
Joseph was born in Dublin abt 1849 and died at 6 Dunnolly St, Glasgow, Scotland on 15/10/1905.
I have Johannah as being born in Cork (information given to me by another source) abt 1851. She died at age 74 at 11 High St, Kincardine.
Johannah was known as both Hannah and Ann and her maiden name was spelt in various ways ie Mullan, Mullin, Mullen and Mullane.
Johannah's parents were William Mullane and Mary Mullane M.S. Cooney.
Joseph's parents were Thomas Lannary and Helen Lannary M.S. Harrison.
William was born Belfast 17 June 1879.
Thomas was born Belfast 13 May 1877.
Ellen was born 26 Kildare St, Belfast, 2 November 1886.
Patrick was born Limerick No 3, Limerick, 19 February 1871.
I have a little more information on William in that he married Maria Barret on 25 october 1901. I found 2 children who I think was theirs 1902 Bridget and 1906 Francis (dec). I think the children may have been named after her parents (remember seeing something to that effect).
Don't know much about Thomas other than he married Jane Boyton on 1 July 1904.
Hope this makes your searching a little easier.
If you have any information that I could use I would be most grateful.
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Hi
Thank you for replying to my post. All the information you gave me is the same as I have about the Lannary's. William Lannary born 20/5/1916 was married to my fathers sister Elsie Bentley. I have information on the Bentley family but not the Lannary family. I have no idea if William had siblings. He and Elsie had two sons, William Douglas born June 1946, in Hampshire died 1971, and Michael born 1953 in Malaya. Elsie Lannary died in November 2007.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Regards
Lily of the valley
Australia
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Hi, I have been looking through my paperwork from Scotland's People. The information on births I obtained shows a Charlotte born in 1905.
I presume that this is a sister of William's only on the grounds that Charlotte Callaghan was his mother.
There is also a Catherine born in 1906 who may also be his siblings. I am not positive but have gone through the list and counted for all but 2 children. The other child is Ann born 1902, but I dont think she will be a sibling of William's given his parents were not married until 1904.
Thanks for the additional information you have provided.
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Hi again
Thank you for the information. I will look for Williams siblings this week when I have some time. Charlotte could be Williams sister. I remember my dad saying that William had a brother (name unknown) who died in Canada and was found in the snow. William never spoke much about his family so it's going to be trial and error. Thank goodness Lannary isn't a common surname!
Again thank you for replying to my post.
Regards
Lily of the valley
Australia
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Hi Lily of the valley and virgo_lass - thanks for the great info. The Thomas you mention born in Belfast 1877 married my ggrandmothers sister Jane Boyton. This would have been William's uncle. My mum remembers as a child visiting Thomas and Auntie Jeanie in Garngad and other parts of Glasgow. Their sons (William's cousins) kept in touch for years with older generaations of our family but sadly no one that I've spoken to so far has any memory of William's family. I will of course keep asking, hopefully somebody will have something. In the mean time Thanks Again
Good Luck
Duncan