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Title: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: july on Friday 30 November 07 21:40 GMT (UK)

Does anyone know if the pub in dacre opposite st andrews church was called the Joiners arms and that there was cottages named Joiners row.
I have been to look and that seems to be the only pub there and the landlord there dident know.
Kind Regards
July :D

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: GeoffE on Friday 30 November 07 23:04 GMT (UK)

If you find Dacre at www.old-maps.co.uk , the 1867 map shows only one pub, the Horse and Farrier, quite near to the church.

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: july on Saturday 01 December 07 10:06 GMT (UK)

I have looked on the map and the nearest Joiners arms i can find is lazonby census says dacre confused now
 Thank you
 :'(

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: bingorudd on Saturday 01 December 07 21:21 GMT (UK)

hi july
there used to be a pub called the joiners arms at newbiggin 5 miles from dacre and 3 miles from stainton it closed down about 5 years or so ago but not sure about row of houses called joiners row
regards

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: GeoffE on Saturday 01 December 07 21:34 GMT (UK)

The 1897 Kellys Directory for Cumberland has a Joiners Arms at Newbiggin, licensee John HORNSBY ... the only pub at Dacre appears to have been the Horse and Farrier.

You can search for yourself at www.historicaldirectories.org

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: july on Monday 03 December 07 18:04 GMT (UK)

Thank you for your help i wonder why on the census 1881 it as got it as being in Dacre i will go and look on the map to see how far Newbiggin is.
July

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: GeoffE on Monday 03 December 07 20:30 GMT (UK)

What's the name of the person you've got (or the page reference). 

The Horse and Farrier has Dinah NOBLE, RG11/5143/96/22

Then there's Edward ATKINSON 22 in the Kings Arms in Stainton/Dacre  RG11/5143/88/6

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: july on Monday 03 December 07 22:13 GMT (UK)

 I have got mathew nichol

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: GeoffE on Monday 03 December 07 22:31 GMT (UK)

Well, although he was an AgLab in 1881, he was living in Newbiggin - the place where the Joiners Arms was. :)

The Joiners Arms was eight households before the NICHOL family in the 1881 census. 
Head of household was
Ann BELL (wid) 46 Innkeeper, Penrith

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: july on Tuesday 04 December 07 15:31 GMT (UK)

Well why have i got dacra on the printout top corner and not Newbigging and the name all down the side of the printout and Newbigginis 5 miles away do you see what i mean.
 July

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: GeoffE on Tuesday 04 December 07 18:28 GMT (UK)

OK, I've now found your man in 1891, next door to Joiners Arms.

At the top of the page it says

Civil Parish: Dacre ................... Village of Newbiggin ........etc. so that's where he was. :)

Title: Re: Joiners arms dacra stainton
Post by: july on Wednesday 05 December 07 20:12 GMT (UK)

So that pub is in dacra newbiggin where i was looking near st andrews was not right
Thank you
July :)