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Title: John Thomas TOPP
Post by: Jud on Saturday 01 January 05 05:06 GMT (UK)
I am looking for information on John Thomas TOPP, baker, b:c1853 where?.  He married to my ggreatmother, Louisa
Mary Gorfin GIBBINGS on 06 Nov 1876 at Swansea by banns. And then my Louisa emigration to NZ on Aug 1878
without her husband. What happening to him? Checked 1881 census & FreeBMD-

thanks
Jud of Australia  :)
Title: Re: John Thomas TOPP
Post by: Welsh Jen on Saturday 01 January 05 21:14 GMT (UK)
Hello I have looked in the 1861 Glamorganshire census for the surname Top (and variants) but there are none.

 :'(

Do you have any more information on his wife? Perhaps I can help you with her?
Regards Jen  :D
Title: Re: John Thomas TOPP
Post by: NigelG on Saturday 01 January 05 21:40 GMT (UK)
Found this family of Tapps on the 1871 census in Aberavon - wondered if they may be your Topps?? Just an idea - they do have a John the right age - not a baker though I'm afraid

Add: 2 Picton St   Aberavon         
Name   Pos.   Age   Occ.   POB

Henry Tapp   Head   57   Labourer On Railway   Devon South Moulton (?)
Mary Tapp   Wife   56      Devon South Moulton (?)
William Tapp   Son   30   Tailor   Devon South Moulton (?)
John Tapp    Son   18   Haulier   Devon South Moulton (?)
Ellen Tapp   Dau   16   Rubbing Tinplate   Devon South Moulton (?)
George Tapp   Son   14   Bandling in Tin Works   Devon South Moulton (?)
Title: Re: John Thomas TOPP
Post by: Welsh Jen on Saturday 01 January 05 21:52 GMT (UK)
In addition to Nigel's information here is the only Tapp listed in Glamorgan 1861:

Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD
4105 1861 CENSUS OF SWANSEA UPPER. REF.R.G.9/4105, E.D.16.                                                                           
Piece: 4105      Folio: 009     Schedule: 060
Address: MATTHEW ST.53         

TAPP WILLIAM               HD U  20   TAILOR                   
                                      DEV SOUTH MOLTON                 (c1841)
Title: Re: John Thomas TOPP
Post by: Jud on Saturday 01 January 05 23:08 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Welsh Jen on Saturday 01 January 05 21:14 GMT (UK)
Hello I have looked in the 1861 Glamorganshire census for the surname Top (and variants) but there are none.

 :'(

Do you have any more information on his wife? Perhaps I can help you with her?
Regards Jen  :D

Not surprised - but there are others TOPPS at Wiltshire- I'll check them out later.

I have a some informations on Louisa - but we surprised that
she married before - never told us.  She married to my ggreatfather on 1880 at NZ and her maiden name GIBBINGS and "spinster" was on her marr cert.  Not "TOPP" 
She came to Nelson under her name Louisa M TOPP, 23, Glamorgan.  {She born at Exeter. Devon]  General service.
Title: Re: John Thomas TOPP
Post by: Welsh Jen on Sunday 02 January 05 10:47 GMT (UK)
I understand that the Tapp entries are not yours. I have checked again in the 1861 Glam census and the nearest match to the surname Topp is Toples. So I would say it is safe to bet the family you are looking for would be found in Devon.

There are some Toap entries in the Glamorgan 1851 Census (I know that is before your ancestor was born) but I thought it may be worthy of a search ~ just incase. Nothing within those entries seem to fit in with your family  :'(

Hope you find them soon! All the best in your research
Jen  :D

 
Title: Re: John Thomas TOPP
Post by: Discoveringmypast on Saturday 20 June 15 16:06 BST (UK)
Hi

Are you still looking for John Thomas Topp?  I believe I have come across him while researching the Gibbings family who are connected to my Gorfin ancestors.

Thanks