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Title: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Friday 30 November 07 14:59 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm seeking any info on my GGG-Grandmother, her ancestors, or her husbands family. Thanks in advance.


b. 1824 (Evertown?) Invernesshire, Scotland
married. David Grant   Moray, Scotland
dec. 17 Feb. 1893   Elgin, Rothes, Scotland

Parents:
James Findlay
Margaret Nairn

Siblings:
Unknown

Source:
1871 Scotland Census
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 15:16 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

warm welcome to rootschat

are we talking

unnie findlay born 9/12/1823

cromdale and inverallan and advie, inverness

daughter of james and margaret nairn?

Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 15:19 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

think it is the correct one...

married david grant 12/12/1850

cromdale and inverallan and advie, inverness

Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 15:29 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

can see these children belonging to james and margaret...

isabella...born 30/1/1814
william...born 3/4/1815
margaret...born 21/1/1817
james...born 20/6/1818
bathia...born 3/9/1819
john hugh...born 25/10/1821
unnie...born 9/12/1823
lillias grant...born 2/2/1826
euphemia...born 12/1/1828
angus mcpherson...born 23/4/1830


Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 15:46 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

a wee start with the family....

1841 census- main street, grantown, cromdale

james...age 55...sheriff officer...born laggan c1783
marion..age 13
euphemia...age 11
angus...age 9


1841 census- main street, grantown, cromdale

isabella...age 25
william...age 25...baker
bathia...age 15
lillias...age 12
alexander grant...age 25...tailor

1851 census- southside, grantown, cromdale

james...age 68...propritor of house auctioneer & sheriff officer
john...age 49...blacksmith...born cromdale c1802
lillias...age 24
euphemia...age 22

1861 census- grantown, cromdale

james...age 78...sheriff officer

you can now go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and get the death cert for james which will allow you to go back a further generation.


Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Friday 30 November 07 15:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Joe, thats exactly the right family!   :)
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 16:04 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

looks like...

isabella married alexander mcqueen 31/12/1850 cromdale

lillias married john longmuir 15/12/1853 cromdale

euphemia married walter cumming 17/1/1856 cromdale


Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Friday 30 November 07 16:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Joe, I really do appreciate your help with this.  :) Could you also tell me what part of the forum to find Elginshire, Rothes, Scotland? I looked and couldnt seem to find. have an awesome holiday~

 :)
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 16:25 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

rother, elgin are in the moray boards.

1851 census- southside, grantown, cromdale

alexander mcqueen...age 25...carpenter
isabella...age 34
james

Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 17:04 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

1861 cenus- 7 breich street, rothes

david...age 38...labourer at distillery...born rothes c1823
unnie...age 37
euphemia...age 9...born 1/1/1852
robert...age 7
janet...age 4...born 5/7/1856
margaret...age 7 months

looks like thet lost baby james born 11/8/1858


1871 census- 89 green street, rothes

david...age 48...stillman
unnie...age 47
robert...age 17
janet...age 14
margaret...age 10
hannah...age 7
david...age 4...born 22/8/1866

1881 census- breich street, rothes

david...age 57...labourer
unnie...age 57 (transcribed as minnie)
janet...age 26...domestic servant
david..age 14
francis...age 1...grandson

1891 census- 17 breich street, rothes

david...age 64...woodcutter
unnie...age 65 (transcribed as annie)
francis...age 12...grandson
euphemia...age 5...grand-daughter

1901 census- 5 church street, rothes

david...age 77...woodcutter
janet...age 45...domestic servant
williamina...age 11...grand-daughter
euphemia riach...age 15...grand-daughter

also in the house are

jessie grant...age 27...housekeeper
george grant...age 5
isabella grant...age 3
jane mckenzie...age 10


Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Friday 30 November 07 17:15 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

1881 census- old street, rothes

hannah...age 15...domestic servant (for william milne, butcher)

could this be her in 1901?

61 castle street, dufftown

john dey...age 33...carpenter
hannah...age 26
james..age 1

Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Saturday 01 December 07 14:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you Joe, for all your help. It really is appreciated. My Hannah (Unnie, Unie) died 17 Feb 1893. I was emailed a copy of her cause of death (statuary book?), but couldnt make out the handwriting. It looks like fibroid something or other. Do you have access to this information online, and do you think you could interpret the handwriting?

Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Saturday 01 December 07 14:36 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

if you go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk you can download the death cert, at a cost of £1.20, and if it is still as bad you can email them and they wil get you a better copy.

Joe


Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Saturday 01 December 07 14:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: JAP on Saturday 01 December 07 15:00 GMT (UK)
MsDovie,

Have you looked at the posts "stickied" at the top of the Scotland General board?  They are very useful.

Do you use the IGI at FamilySearch?  A great deal of information can be found there without spending credits on ScotlandsPeople.  FamilySearch is at:
http://www.familysearch.org

Also, most (94%) of the 1841 census for Inverness-shire is on FreeCEN at:
http://www.freecen.org.uk/
As is 100% of the 1841 for Moray-shire and Nairn-shire.
And about 34% of Inverness-shire for 1851, and 100% for Moray-shire and Nairn-shire.

To look at the death certificate for Hannah/Unnie/Unie from the Statutory Register (statutory registration started in 1855 in Scotland) would require someone to spend credits on the (pay per view) ScotlandsPeople site at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

SP (ScotlandsPeople) has OPR births/baptisms and marriages, and Statutory Register births, marriages and deaths.  Also Wills.

However, you could post the relevant part of the death certificate and helpful RootsChatters stand ready and waiting to try to decipher it  :D

Regards and  best of luck,

JAP
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Saturday 01 December 07 15:11 GMT (UK)
Hi JAP,

Thank you for letting me know these helpful links. I havent been at this very long, and I do appreciate all the information. This is such a great site, and people are so friendly, and helpful. I had no idea of  "FreeCen", either. The statuary death cert., looks like it says "fibroid haltosis". I wonder if I could download the image? I will give it a try, will take quite a few minutes.
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Saturday 01 December 07 15:40 GMT (UK)
I tried to download it, it said file too large.   
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Saturday 01 December 07 15:54 GMT (UK)
I put it on photo bucket. Am I allowed to post the link in my message?
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Saturday 01 December 07 17:17 GMT (UK)
hi pal,

missed this...

1851 census- main street, grantown

david...age 28...farm labourer
unnie...age 27

Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: JAP on Sunday 02 December 07 06:28 GMT (UK)
MsDovie,

No reason I can think of why you shouldn't post a link to the image.

Regards,

JAP
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Sunday 02 December 07 12:19 GMT (UK)
Linkie removed. :(
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: JAP on Sunday 02 December 07 12:43 GMT (UK)
I believe it says:

Fibroid Phthisis

JAP
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: runningbear on Sunday 02 December 07 12:50 GMT (UK)
well done jap,

link here

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fibroid+phthisis



Joe
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Sunday 02 December 07 12:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: JAP on Sunday 02 December 07 13:28 GMT (UK)
After I worked out what I thought it said, I did Google for fibroid phthisis to make sure that there was such a disease!

There were many hits and varying descriptions.  Here are a couple more:

http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/English/Occupational.htm

http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/fibroid%20phthisis

Regards,

JAP

Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: MsDovie on Sunday 02 December 07 13:39 GMT (UK)
I assumed it had something to do with the lungs, once agian, you are way ahead of me. Her husband David died from "Senile Decay", I didnt see that on the archaic medical terms list. I'm assuming that means he died because he was "old"?
Title: Re: Findlay, Hannah "Unie"
Post by: Leonie_O on Tuesday 31 March 09 07:20 BST (UK)
Hello
I have been researching the FINDLAY family for over 15 years following on from my father's research.
Unnie Findlay was my gg grandmother's sister.
I have lots of info on all the Findlays if you are interested.
I also have Unnie Findlay's death cert and it says she died from 'fibroid pthisis'.  Since pthisis is tuberculosis, it must be some kind of this.
In one of your posts you say that her daughter Euphemia went to the USA.  Is this so? I would be very interested in details of this.
Four of Unnie's sisters and a brother came to Australia in the 1850s.
Last year I met some of Unnie's descendants in Glasgow and Dundee, Scotland.
Regards
Leonie