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Title: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: juliebenny on Friday 30 November 07 04:23 GMT (UK)
Can anyone shed any light on a marriage between Matthew Carey from
Ireland and Harriet Cook from Hampshire, Eng around 1856.  I'm not sure
if it was in NZ or Aust.
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 30 November 07 07:20 GMT (UK)
Mmmmm .... no, sorry.

Only this   ?

Matthew CAREY  m.  Harriett BAYLIS - 1866  (Folio 0567)   ?
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: pinkie6 on Saturday 12 January 08 10:48 GMT (UK)
I have info by jack Leigh who is Mathew carey's grandson, I also have Mathew Carey's marriage cert.
Elizabeth Carey nee Cook arrived in new Plymouth early in 1864 from Melbourne. After 2yrs of building blockhouses and variuos redoubts in various parts of the area, the family moved to Patea, then eventually moved to manutahi, they took up land under the millitary settlers scheme.  After some of the Maori land war stuff the family moved back to Patea in 1869 after having gone to Wanganui when the trouble was happening.  Elizabeth and Mathew Carey eventually left Patea and returned to Australia. The previous was from Laurel Carey and the rest of it "tales of pioneer women', published by country women's institute in 1940.  i hope that is of some help as Mathew Carey junior married a woman that is related to me.
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 12 January 08 11:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Pixie6     

Welcome to RootsChat    :)

Just wondered if you spotted the other thread - subject "Carey/Cook" -  which "juliebenny" has running on this board ?

Lu
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: pinkie6 on Saturday 12 January 08 11:20 GMT (UK)
hi there , no I hadn't, but am so glad I found this site, am having fun with searches!!!!!
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: juliebenny on Saturday 12 January 08 22:06 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Pixie6  ;D

My father started this project back in the 1970's and left it to
me when he died in 1993.  I left it in the cupboard until last
year and have since found out the most fantastic things.  It
is fantastic about the Carey's.  Do you think Jack or Matthew
Carey jnr would want to correspond?  I hope so as I have about 300 questions for them.  I have just sent a request to
NZ for their marriage cert. but I would dearly love to know
what happened to the rest of the family.

Again thank you so much.
Regards
Julie  :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: pinkie6 on Sunday 13 January 08 00:38 GMT (UK)
hi there, Mathew Carey jnu's grandson is Jack Leigh, he lives in Auckland and another grandaughter, Jacks cousin is Nola Cosford, I will look up old notes for their ph numbers, although Jack Leigh knew not much, just what I had and I took it further by ordring the marriage cert, Mathew Carey jnr son of Mathew Carey and harriet Carey nee Cook(Elizabeth), was 22, in 1884, on the 14th January at the house of Mr Richard Willis, patea he married a Jane Neill(o'neil(l)1) daughter of Emma neill(o'neil(l)! nee Runnle(rundle-Randell-Ryan, my gtgtgt grandmother) and John Neill(oneil(l)!, jane's place of birth Wanganui and Mathew born in Melbourne,  a wheelwright and bachelor, and Jane was 21yrs old, this is off the wedding cert for you.
I have a photo copy of mathew and Jane and other family, Mathew and Jane had 8 children, the eldest died at home in 1901, mathew Carey jnr achieved fame as Taranaki's first rep fullback in 1885 (rugby) also a crack rifle shot, prominant bowler and party to his family's desperate exploits in the maori trouble in 1868 when they were burnt off their land at manutahi, but they had some protection from a cheif Brown who's wife Harriet had helped nurse bfore she died, thats why the family got away alive!!  Mathew and Jane Carey celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary in 1934, she died 10 august 1941 at patea aged 79, buried in the Patea cemetery. I will have to look up when mathew died but they made the trip back to Australia as a pilgramage as mathew was born there.  I will try to get more for you as have a few things on the go with my tree!! but hope this helps and will get those numbers for Jack leigh and Nell Cosford, I don't have e-mail for them, regards Rachel.
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: juliebenny on Sunday 13 January 08 20:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel
Tks for the info.  Just a couple (of hundred) questions.  Why do you refer to Harriet as Elizabeth?  Harriet was previously married do u have any record of the previous children as they were mentioned on her death cert.?  You said they took up land under the "millitary settlers scheme" does that mean Matthew was in the British Army or NZ Army?  I'm looking for the Pioneer Women's book it sounds fascinating.

Do u know what happened to the other Carey children? I've been tracing other members who went to NZ as well & their records are pretty hard for me to access.  I have Parthenia Elizabeth (my direct), Elicia, Matthew jnr & Robert all born at Pentridge, Vic then Frederick, David, Lucretia, William & Ellen born in NZ.  I'm happy to sent what I have on Parthernia Elizabeth (if u don't have already) & send certificates if u want them.

If u want to correspond by regular email it might be easier to send certificates.  I appreciate your busy with your own tree.  hop to correspond soon.
Tks so much
Julie
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: pinkie6 on Sunday 13 January 08 22:01 GMT (UK)
Hi there I call harriet Elizabeth as I had only seen harriet on mathew and jame's marriage cert. Puke Ariki is a research centre in new Plymouth that has a website and can do research, I will see what notes etc i have here and also those contact numbers for nell and jack, there was also a carey family that came over to port chalmers south island nz but don't think they are the same. there were carey's in the nz army or fencibles as they were called, also the patea rifles there are bits and pieces around on the net and will try to narrow it down to send you, the new plymouth genealogy branch will have more and the new plymouth computer group has shipping index microfiche, there is also a noeline carey involved in the new plymouth genealogy branch, are you in Nz?

write to Bruce Bellini
Taranaki Biographical index librarian
98 A Queens Road
Glen Avon
new Plymouth new zealand.    They have heaps at puke ariki which is a branch of new plymouth library.

Archives nz are also great and they have a website archway archives.

Also mathew carey was an undertaker in patea so there should be stuff about that at the south taranaki district museum in Patea, i will get back to you with more soon!
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: pinkie6 on Sunday 13 January 08 22:08 GMT (UK)
hopefully this pic gets thru1 am not a wizz yet with the puter! from left, mathew Carey-alice Wills-Eliza Snook/s- short dude is mathew Carey's son-the hatted man Alfred Gill-Annie-Dolly Gill and seated is Jane Carey, Mathew Carey's wife. they used to call her little auntie.
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: pinkie6 on Sunday 13 January 08 22:22 GMT (UK)
Also found Elizabeth Parthena Carey born 1859 married a thomas parnell 13 october 1880 in Patea off the mormon site, their records aren't always accurate tho.
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: turtletowers on Sunday 13 November 11 01:22 GMT (UK)
I am Jack Leigh's son. His mother was Ethel Carey, daughter of Mat jr. Her sister, Laurel (known as Loll) wrote a story in The New Zealand School Journal about 30 years ago about Mathew Carey sr and family escaping from their frontier home during a Maori uprising and moving to Patea, where Mat jr and family remained, although Mat sr returned to Melbourne. I have a recording, obtained from the Radio New Zealand Archives, in which Mathew Carey jr and a friend, Harry Locker, were interviewed in 1945 as very old men, about the early days of Patea.
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Sunday 13 November 11 07:49 GMT (UK)
Hi
welcome to the board
how amazing that you have that old recording from the archives..I bet they had some stories to tell  :o

bye
althea
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: juliebenny on Sunday 13 November 11 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi turtletowers
I would dearly love to know more.  I wrote some time ago to Jack and had one reply but then no more so I assummed he passed away.  Would love for us to communicate further.
Julie
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: turtletowers on Sunday 13 November 11 21:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie,

No, my dad is still around and we're both keen to share info with you. I'm just trying to work out how to get my email address to you without posting it on the board. (I assume that doesn't go against any rules). Dad has lost your contact details, which is why the communication stopped. He is still at the same address.

I understand from my dad that Jane O'Neill (wife of Matt jr) had Emma Hursthouse as her mother on her birth certificate. We wonder what, if any, connection there might be to the prominent Taranaki family of that name.

Thanks for making contact.

Chris Leigh
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 13 November 11 21:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris

If you just post one further reply to this thread, then you'll be able to access the "personal messaging" facility here, and make private contact with Julie.   :)
[Newcomers need to make 3 posts before they can access the PM system.]  ;)
   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: turtletowers on Sunday 13 November 11 21:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Lu,

Thanks for that. It makes sense. I thought it odd that there was a personal inbox, but no way of sending a personal message!

Cheers,

Chris

:)
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: turtletowers on Sunday 13 November 11 22:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Althea,

Yes, it was a stroke of luck to find it. It is a bit crackly, but you can hear their words very clearly. It was recorded by the Radio NZ Mobile Unit. They spoke mostly about what ships they came on and what Patea was like in those days.

Cheers,

Chris


Hi
welcome to the board
how amazing that you have that old recording from the archives..I bet they had some stories to tell  :o

bye
althea
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: pinkie6 on Saturday 21 January 12 02:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie,

No, my dad is still around and we're both keen to share info with you. I'm just trying to work out how to get my email address to you without posting it on the board. (I assume that doesn't go against any rules). Dad has lost your contact details, which is why the communication stopped. He is still at the same address.

I understand from my dad that Jane O'Neill (wife of Matt jr) had Emma Hursthouse as her mother on her birth certificate. We wonder what, if any, connection there might be to the prominent Taranaki family of that name.

Thanks for making contact.

Chris Leigh

hi there, from memory when i sent for jane's birth cert it wasn't hursthouse but o'neil, will check for sure later today as emma is of particular interest to myself.
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: Raewood on Sunday 13 May 12 21:47 BST (UK)
Hi,
My mother was Leonie Alicia Willis. Her Father was George Samuel Willis and Mother Lilith Aimee Jones. George Samuel Willis's Father was Richard Willis and Mother Alicia Carey. Alicia Carey's Father was Matthew Carey and Mother Jane O'Neal. In the the posted photo of Matthew Carey and seated Jane O'Neal I wonder if Alice Wills is Alicia Willis?
Do you know who the father and Mother of Richard Willis is?
Ray
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: juliebenny on Sunday 13 May 12 22:32 BST (UK)
Hi Ray
I'm sorry but I have no record of Alicia Carey's descendants I have not researched that line.  Chris may have done some on that line.  Sorry I'm no help.
Julie
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: Raewood on Monday 14 May 12 00:54 BST (UK)
Thanks Julie,
It was worth a try.
Ray
Title: Re: Carey/Cook Marriage about 1856
Post by: juliebenny on Monday 14 May 12 01:12 BST (UK)
Hi Ray
I'm a descendant of Parthenia Elizabeth Carey (dau. of Matthew and Harriett Cook) and am in the middle of writing a book mainly of her husband Thomas Parnell's side and am incorporating as much of the Carey's as possible.  Are you interested in swapping info. if so can you send me your email via. personal message.
Cheers
Julie