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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: GazT on Wednesday 28 November 07 21:50 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm hoping someone can help me find more on George FRY and his family. George, born about 1823, was transported to Tasmania in 1843 after stabbing a drinking partner Joseph Hake. He was convicted in Somerset Assizes in August 1843 and shipped out in November that year.
His convict papers show him as a ploughman and farm labourer and his 'native place' as 'Exminster'. In a barely legible 'Remarks' section it appears to show his father as 'Jas' (probably James), a brother Jas, and a sister Eliza.
I have looked at the 1841 Census through Ancestry and found a number of George Frys, none living with a James or Eliza, though it is likely he was out working by then, aged about 17. One likely possibility is in a place called Beers Ferris. There is a possible James Fry in Axminster as well.
But I am seeking a second or better opinion before I claim either of those. If anyone can give me some guidance or suggest other resources to trace the Frys, I would be most grateful.
GazT
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I have a number of Fry ancestors, but all mine were north devon, around Bideford.
Bere Ferrers is near Plymouth. If you have also found Fry in Exminster and Axminster it seems they were all over Devon
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Thanks John,
I had a close look at the 1841 census image this morning and noticed that next door to the Beer Ferris George Fry are Nicholas Frye, b abt 1826, Mary Fryer, b abt 1796, and Nicholas Fryer, b abt 1790, so it looks like they might be his family and I'm on the wrong track there.
There is another George Fry, b abt 1824, at Goodleigh, but he is still with his family in 1851.
There is another George Fry, b abt 1824, at Clayhidon. Unfortunately the census page is unreadable, so I'm unsure of his occupation. There are no other Frys among the neighbours.
I'm unsure of the geography of Devon and where Clayhidon is, in proximity to Axminster or Exminster, but I'd have to say at this stage that the last-mentioned George seems my most likely suspect.
The James Fry in Axminster also seems most likely. Born abt 1786 he is living with his wife Susan, who is not mentioned in George's convict papers, but also with a daughter Eliza, born abt 1826, who is mentioned.
Anyway, thanks for your help.
GazT
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Clayhidon is on the devon/somerset border near Wellington and so isn't near either Axminster or Exminster. Or Bere Ferrers for that matter.
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This George Fry is my great grand father. I have more i9nformation if you are still interested.
Greg Fry
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Hi Greg,
love to share whatever you've got on George, and particularly on his folk in Devon and Somerset, if you have any of that. I have a pretty comprehensive family history after he arrived in Australia and married, but as you might see from previous posts I've hit a wall researching his parents James Fry and Harriet Matthews.
cheers
Gaz
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G'day im hoping you guys can help me with information on George Fry all i know is that he was a convict sent to Australia there is so many fry's living here its hard to find out where we started.
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G'day Ash,
What's your connection with George? I've got heaps of info, send me your email address and I'll pass it on.
GazT
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G'day my email is
I have a large fry family my grand fathers name is George thats what started the search he is one of 12 my father told me the first fry in australia is named George so ive been trying to find out as much as i can.
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Family Search:
There's a George Fry baptised 1822 in Membury, Devon - parents James and Harriet. That would fit with him coming from Axminster as it's the nearest town.
Other children to James and Harriet baptised in Membury are James Frederick 1823, Eliza 1828 and John 1828.
I have the newspaper entry of the relevant Somerset Assizes if you want it.
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Hey Darwin,
That's my George. I'd love the newspaper entry! Can you email it? If so it's c/o (x) please.
Thanks a lot
GazT\\
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OK - cutting sent via email. :)
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Hi i am Ash Fry's partner Kristy,
Ash is also after a George Fry who would have been on the scarborough ship within the First Fleet he would have been born approx 1762ish.
If anyone has any information plz contact us @
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This is the first George Fry that came to Australia as a convict that i could find.
Thank you
Kristy
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Could someone please email me information on this George Fry. I am in australia and i am to believe the first Fry here was George i am wondering if this is the same George. If this is the correct George then your information could be extremely helpful to me and i may also be able to help you. Laura
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There were 2 George FRYs shipped out - one with the first fleet in 1782 - see http://www.exetermemories.co.uk/em/convicts.php
http://www.historyaustralia.org.au/twconvic/503
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonIndexes/LastFarewell.html
and one in 1843.
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Hello from Australia,
My husband only last evening looked again at his ex wife's tree and found that it goes back to George Fry mentioned in these posts.
George born 1823 and transported to Australia in 1843.
We have very little on him either before transportation or after.
Only that my husbands ex is the great great granddaughter of George Fry who we know married Jane Louisa Seymour also a convict.
Any information articles etc would be wonderful assistance.
Our grandchildren are doing family tree studies at school and have asked about any convicts etc.
look forward to hearing from anyone who can help.
If you are a direct line that's even better.
Cheers
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Hi,
George Fry was born on 28 Apr 1822 in Membury, Devon, son of James Fry and Harriet Matthews.
George Fry was convicted of the felony offence of malicious stabbing in the Somerset Assizes on 10 August 1843. According to his convict records, he stated his offence, committed on Tuesday 2 May, was “stabbing Joseph Hake with a knife. We had been drinking together and I stuck him’’. Sentenced to 15 years and transportation, he was sent to Millbank Prison and, on 22 November 1843, he left England aboard the Marion and arrived in Van Dieman’s Land on 4 April 1844.
If you google George Fry, The Age newspaper and Gary Tippet you will find a couple of accounts of his crime and his marriage to Louisa Jane Seymour, also a convict. If you email the author at The Age, I can GUARANTEE he will reply with a lot of detailed information for your grandchildren.
cheers
Gary.
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I have a George Fry in Tasmania married an Ellen Allan died 1899
Not sure yet when they got married but have found no children so have assumed it was a secound marriage
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Hi,
Our George was married to Louisa Seymour, know nothing of another marriage at all sorry.
Aussie Reseacher
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Hi,
There were three George Frys transported as convicts to Tasmania/Van Diemans Land: one arrived in 1844 aboard the Anson; another in 1851 on the Lady Kennaway; and the other in April 1844 on the Marion. The last is my ancestor.
The Colonial Tasmanian Family Links database shows 18 George Frys born between 1820 and 1897, though there may be some duplication. I can't see there a George Fry marrying an Ellen Allen, though one, born about 1832, marries an Ellen Hull in 1882: Given his age it may be a second marriage... and there it is: Ellen Allen born married Edward Hull in 1854.
If your George was a convict, given he was born about 1831, it's most likely he was the one on the Lady Kennaway, I'd guess.
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G'day Ash,
What's your connection with George? I've got heaps of info, send me your email address and I'll pass it on.
GazT
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I am also looking for a George Fry who married a Ellen Hull in Hobart 1882
I believe his second marriage - dont think there was any children to this marriage.
Haven't been able find any.
Would anyone know who his first marriage was to.