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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: davhil01 on Wednesday 28 November 07 18:24 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone give me a little information of what the area of Main Street, Glasgow was like in the 1920s, and what sort of living conditions would of been like?
Regards
Dave
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Try here for old pictures:
www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/index.php?a=street
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Thanks for the link. A very interesting site. Helps with other information for the area.
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Here's another link for you to "The Glasgow Story" site.
Main St became Gorbals St and there are photos of that too in the Mitchell site link that aghadowey gave you.
Dave.
http://tinyurl.com/2anm2a
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Thank you Dave, That makes it look a bit more nicer to live in. My father in law was born 1920 at 244 main street, Glasgow in the district of Calton. ( I think its all the same area)
I guess with 9 more siblings living in the same home it must have been really crowded, and his mother died in 1929 of Lysol Poisoning. Maybe his mother had been really pressed with such a big family and things just took there toll.
Dave
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Large families like that seem to have been pretty much the norm. My dad was born in Glasgow in 1925 and was the youngest of a family of 10 born from 1907.
His dad was 1 of 6 children and his mum, 1 of 7.
Needless to say, I have my fair share of cousins!
Dave
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I was interested to see the discussion about Main Street.
It has been many years since I lived in Glasgow but to the
best of my knowledge Main Street runs from Bridgeton Cross
to the Rutherglen Bridge in the vicinity of French Street
which is North of the Clyde and Gorbals Street is South of
the Clyde. I was never aware that Main Street had become
Gorbals Street. I would have thought Main Street more
likely to be considered as Bridgeton or even Dalmarnock,
rather than Calton but things change and as I said it has
been a long time since I called Glasgow home. My Dad was
born in Struthers Street which was described as Calton.
That whole area was very working class, in other words
poor, and families of 7, 8 or 9 was not uncommon. I often
wonder how they managed, my Dad was one of nine, three
boys and six girls living in a room and kitchen. They shared
an outside toilet with two other families, is it any wonder so
many had poor health, living in such conditions? I chuckle
when I hear my Grandchildren complaining about living in
a house with only one bathroom. If they only knew how
fortunate they are.
Jewel of the North in Canada.
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You really have a bathroom in the house? :o
Dave (still in Glasgow)
PS Did you know Bridgeton Cross? My grandfather owned his butchers shop at 143 Orr St, just off Bridgeton Cross.
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PPS I was kiddin' about the bathroom! :D
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....and you're quite correct. Main St did (and still does) run from The Cross to Rutherglen Bridge.
There was more than one, one where 'Jewel in the North' states and also the one in Gorbals, both of which were extant in 1920.
We need to have a rethink about Dave's original post.
Does any of the documentation you have specify the area Dave?
Dave
MODIFIED - My mind is working far too slow tonight. What was the family name? We can have a look at the valuation rolls for 19131914 and see whether the family is there?
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I do the birth certificate of my father in law and it states he was born at 244 Main Street, Bridgeton, Glasgow, in the district of Calton. Is it the same area that we were first thinking of Dave?
The family name was Cryans. Hope that helps
Dave
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Nope. Jewel in the North picked the correct one.
People living in 244 in 1913 -1914 were Cryans, Crawford, Bonnor and Smith.
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Gosh that was quick Dave :o
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I've been looking at maps and valuation rolls for the last hour or so to see what I could find. Honest, I'm not stalking ;D
If you haven't already found it on the site aghadowey gave you, here's a more specific link.
Maybe they bought their meat from my grandfather!
http://tinyurl.com/2lach7
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Thanks dave, will try it out. Yeah good bet they could have brought their meat from ur grandpa
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In 1851 my GGGrandfather Alex McKenzie lived at 2, Orr Street in Glasgow. He then lived in Paisley for a while, returning to Glasgow to live in Scott St and Trafalgar Street. I imagine all of these streets are in roughly the same area as on the birth records of the children I have Bridgeton, Calton and Anderston.
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Dave,
Don't recall the Butchers but my Grannie was quite slow to
let me go to the shop as my taste ran mostly to cream cakes
and chocolate biscuits. I was always directed to the Co-op
with strict instructions not to forget the divi slip. I know where you are though as my Grannie lived in Abercrombie St
at Crownpoint Road. I had an Uncle who worked as an usher at the Olympia picture house when I was a kid and he
used to sneak me and a cousin in to sit in the gallery from
time to time. Happy days, Rin Tin Tin and Hopalong Cassidy
were my boyhood idols.
Jewel in the frozen North
awoke to about a foot of snow this morning and temp minus 9.
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awoke to about a foot of snow this morning and temp minus 9.
Know what you mean. My central heating system is a bit like that! ;D ;D
Some of my family lived at 111 Crownpoint Road. They lived all around Bridgeton, Dennistoun, Camlachie etc. There's a good chance our families may have crossed paths at some point.
Dave
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Bridgeton, Calton and Anderston.
Bridgeton and Calton are both in the same area in the east of the city however Anderston is on the west side (just west of the current city centre area)
Some images of Calton can be found at
http://www.theglasgowstory.com/search.php?search=99&where=%7CCalton
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Falkyrn,
We've shared quite a few posts in recent months. Where are you in Scotland? Glasgow too? Just being nosey - we could be neighbours :o ;D
Dave
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Just outside Glasgow although I was born and raised in the City (south side)
Re Calton ... once a highly prosperous area in its own right due to the weavers who plied their trade
The Calton Weavers from the East End of Glasgow became Scotland's first working-class martyrs' when six of them were killed by soldiers sent in to quell their strike.
The incident - at Drygate Bridge in 1787 - was the earliest major industrial dispute in Scottish history.
Those who died were buried in the Calton Cemetery in Abercromby Street, but the graveyard has become dilapidated over the years.
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Even the plaque commemorating the strikers is in such a bad state that only one name - James Page - can be made out.
Quote from an Evening Times (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.1404637.0.friends_set_to_bring_citys_calton_weavers_back_to_life.php) article
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Thanks for the info Falkryn. I really must visit Glasgow sometime! My ancestor was a Blockcutter journeyman so probably had something to do with the cloth trade.
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Dave just having a chuckle at this as my grandmother lived in Bridgeton and I actually remember going down the butchers too. She was off Springfield Road. Which my uncle was janitor to Springfield High School, that's where the fans used to park there cars to go to the Parkhead homes games.
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Glad you enjoyed weemo.
Whereabouts off Springfield Road?
It's unlikely you would have walked as far as Orr St. Lots of butchers in that area...still are playing at Parkhead ;D ;D ;D
When did you move down to England? TRAITOR! ;)
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70's Daval. Moved to London to get some money to go to Canada and met my hubby and that put paid to me going there. He didn't wantme to go. awwwww!
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My father was Francis Cryans born 1923 - 244 Main Street Bridgeton brother of Alex and 8 others
Would anyone have any Voters List for the above address between 1920-35
Patrick Cryans
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I am interested to see 244 Main Street (Bridgeton) Glasgow mentioned here. I have just discovered that relaitives of mine were married at 244 Main Street, Bridgeton, Glasgow on 31 December 1875. NOt only was that the place of the marriage but it was also cited as the usual residence of both the groom (David Turnbull) and the bride Minnie McDougall). I imagine that 244 was a tenement address - but in that case was it normal to be married at home? Interesting that Davhil01's father-in-law was born here. It seems an address where everything happens!! Can anyone shed any further light on this?
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At that time most weddings took place in the home of the bride, and very few took place in churches as it is today
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Thank you Sancti, that is very interesting. I am a novice at this, having only just started on my family tree.
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my late father-in-law was born at No. 42 Struthers St, Calton in 1921. Struthers St is now Tobago St.
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Fiona, just on your thought regarding 244 Main Street being a likely tenement. On the 1881, 67 people show at that address made up of a number of different households (including a McDougall family, John and Sarah and family).
Monica
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You may find this site helpful.
http://www.glescapals.com/
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Also a list of Glasgow street names which were subject to change prior to the 1940s
http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/info-streetschanged1.html
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And another.
The origin and history of Glasgow streets
http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/minstr/minstr01.htm
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Dave just having a chuckle at this as my grandmother lived in Bridgeton and I actually remember going down the butchers too. She was off Springfield Road. Which my uncle was janitor to Springfield High School, that's where the fans used to park there cars to go to the Parkhead homes games.
Hi, I feel you may have your school's mixed up. I lived right next to "Springfield primary" school Dalmarnock.
Springfield Road Primary School
http://www.glescapals.com/schools/springfield1883.htm
Then they went up to this school, near celtic park.
Riverside Senior Secondary School
http://www.glescapals.com/schools/rvs.htm
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The Calton Weavers from the East End of Glasgow became Scotland's first working-class martyrs' when six of them were killed by soldiers sent in to quell their strike.
The incident - at Drygate Bridge in 1787 - was the earliest major industrial dispute in Scottish history.
Those who died were buried in the Calton Cemetery in Abercromby Street, but the graveyard has become dilapidated over the years.
Check out the Old Calton Graveyard 1-3
http://www.glescapals.com/streets/abercrombyst-graveyard1.htm
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Hello Jean,
Mind if I ask your surname?
My parents lived Wodrrop Street, as did grandparents. The other side lived in Patna street/Springfield Road.
Yes you are right, did get them mixed up in name, but they mostly all worked at both schools.
Still have an aunt in Helenvale St too.
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Hi, weemow :) by the way my name is Bonny ;) my birth home is Nova Scotia Canada, my husband came from Bridgeton (Boyle) and half of his family are Maxwell, my husband came from Dale st, Connel st, and we lived in Baltic st. ;)
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Will have to ask my brother. I remember Boyles from East Kilbride. Maxwell's I have relatives that moved to Canada to Chatham, Ont.