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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: deespanner on Tuesday 27 November 07 11:28 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help me with a look up on the 1861 & 1871 census please for George Frederick Jacobs & Mary Ann Jacobs married in March Qu 1860 Shoreditch 1c 362
Many thanks
Dee
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Hi Dee,
Do these look correct?
1861
RG9/152 89 2
Stoke Newington St Mary
Palatine Houses
Geo F Jacobs, head, 25, Artist and Engraver (on wood), b. Surrey Christchurch ***
Mary Ann, wife, 20, b. Middlesex Shoreditch
Arthur Fred, son, 4mo, b. Stoke Newington
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Hi Tati
i dont think these are the ones as George was born in Salisbury and Mary Ann was born in Margate.
best wishes
Dee
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Why didn't you say? ;)
Do you know how old they would be too? :)
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Sorry
George would of been 31 in 1861 not sure what Mary Ann's age would be
Dee
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I still think my earlier 1861 find is a very good match for the Shoreditch marriage - are you sure your Mary Ann was nee Robertson?
This looks like your family this time:
1871
RG10/629 108 28
St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, London
26 Brandon St
George Jacobs, head, 41, Shoemaker, b. Salisbury
Mary Ann, wife, 37, b. Margate
Charles, son, 11, Errand Boy, b. Lambeth
Mary Ann, dau, 9, scholar, b. Newington
James, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 4, b; Bermondsey
Struggling to find them in 1861 for now :P
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Yes thats the family many thanks for your help Tati
Dee
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I think you have the wrong marriage. George was already married to Mary Ann in 1851:
1851 Bermondsey, Surrey
George Jacobs 33 b. Salisbury
M.A. Jacobs 20 b. Margate
Geo. Jacobs 1 mo b. Bermondsey
W. Jacobs 67 b. Salisbury
E. Jacobs 62 b. ?
HO107 - 1562 - 241 - 26
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You have totally confused me now lol, as the family above is the one i have been working on as son James is the correct age and he is my G G Grandfather.
Dee
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The only possible marriage I can find for a George Jacobs and a Mary Ann in the 1851 time frame is in Sept.qtr.1851 Lambeth to a Mary Ann Ingram. Their sons birth is in June qtr.1851 (only 1 mo on census) and if they married around same time it is possible it was not recorded until the Sept.qtr.
Have also found an Ingram family in Lambeth.
1851 Lambeth - HO107 - 1570 - 200 - 38
James Ingram 65 Shoemaker b. Salisbury
Sarah Ingram 55 Shoe Binder b. Bristol
Richard Ingram 17 Bricklayer b. Margate, Kent
Jane Ingram 15 Shoe Binder b. St. Johns, West
Frances Ingram 12 Shoe Binder b. Lambeth
1841 Lambeth - HO107 - 1061 - 7
James Ingram 55
Sarah Ingram 45
Henry Ingram 18
Frederick Ingram 15
Sarah Ingram 13
Mary Ingram 11
Richard Ingram 9
Frances Ingram 2
(don't know where Jane was ??)
Cannot find George Jacobs anywhere on 1861 Census - have checked under any permutation you can think of so looks like somehow they evaded the enumerator that night.
Think you need James Jacobs birth certificate to be certain - birth registered Dec.qtr.1864 Newington.
Also looked at original of 1851 Census for George Jacobs - his age is wrongly transcribed as 33 but is clearly shown as 22. He was a Bricklayer at that time. Perhaps he took over his father-in-law's business by 1871!
Good Luck.
Annette
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Many thanks for that Annette
The George Jacobs and Mary Ann Ingram you found i think if i remember without going through the records i have are possibly George's Parents as he was born in 1836 and the ages do not work out but as normal there are loads of Georges and Mary Ann's in both sides of my Mums parents families.
I will look up the info i have got and get back to you, once again thank you for your help
Dee