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Please does anyone know what the following means :
Morbus Cardis 14 years
I know morbus Cardis but wondered what the 14 years meant? The person who died was 36 and died at home.....
Many thanks
Tilly
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Where I've seen a time period on the death certificate it has indicated how long the person had the illness before death.
Monica
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Hi, I agree to that--from my death certs of relatives it looks like a time was given , often "certified x years" where it was a contagious desease such as TB, or where official note was taken of long term illness--for receiving parish, or charitable relief etc. I also wonder if they put this to show a post mortum was not nescessary (is that how you spell that??)
Sally
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Agreed - the time stated after a cause of death is usually (always?) the period for which the person has been suffering from that condition.
Morbus Cordis is a general term for disease of the heart. You might find this site interesting, if you haven't already seen it - lots of old terms for medical conditions and really useful for interpreting old death certificates!
http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/Index.htm
Cheers
Prue
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Hello Sally, Prue and Monica
thank you very much for your reply - I too thought that it might mean the length of time the person had been ill................this ancestor, Gt Grandfather Herbert Clifford, is variously said, in the family, to have caught "Brights Disease" during the Boer War or caught something nasty travelling up (or down?) the Amazon...............So I suppose whichever one it was (more likely the Boer War than the Amazon I think! ;D), could have given him a weak heart............
thanks again
Tilly
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Brights Disease was Kidney Disease (named after Mr Bright) now split into different type of kidney disease but you couldn't catch it.
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Hello Toni
Thank you for the info - I was told that he apparently he caught the disease following an encounter with a rat........
I found morbis cardis at the following site :
www.paul_smith.doctors.org.uk
I have just had another look and he also mentions Bright's Disease.
I think I shall put the link on the useful links page.................
tilly
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well i didn't know this bit re Brights Disease :o:~
Historically, Bright's disease is often a catch-all for kidney diseases, but strictly speaking is glomerulonephritis, which may be a complication of streptococcal sore throat
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Yes, it's quite interesting - but not really bedtime reading................... :P
ps : quick question - is it ok to post a link to this site - or should I have asked them first? ???
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More likely to be Morbus Cardis for a period of 14 yrs resulting in the person's demise,cheers Smelly
Please does anyone know what the following means :
Morbus Cardis 14 years
I know morbus Cardis but wondered what the 14 years meant? The person who died was 36 and died at home.....
Many thanks
Tilly
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The usual disease that follows from contact with rats - or more correctly, rat urine or saliva, is leptospirosis. Sometimes called Weils Disease.
A common complication of which is renal (kidney) failure. So his Brights disease could well have started as a consequence of an encounter with a rat.
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that makes sense JOhn
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Hello Toni, Smelly and John
Thank you for your help - however, it would seem that he didn't fight in the Boer War, I should have noticed that the dates didn't really fit :-[ - So it would seem that he probably died from a weak heart, although of course I'll probably never know what brought it on...... He might have been in S. Africa at some time, as, when he died, his widow went to live there with some of the children and he could have been bitten by a rat anywhere - so maybe it's a case of a different stories getting muddled up and romanticized( ???spelling)...............
thank you again
Tilly
(Have posted this reply once, but something went wrong and it disappeared - so sorry if you get it twice!!)