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Hi All
I am wondering whether anyone has any information prior to 1867 regarding Thomas Goth who was born in Sedbergh, York in 1849. The 1861 census would be ideal.
Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks and Happy New Year!
laurap120 :)
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laurap,
Nothing on 1861 for East Yorks.
Sorry
Wobbly
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I wasn't holding out much hope. Apparently they moved around a lot as his father was a methodist minister. Is there anything in 1851?
Thanks
laurap120
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Laurap,
Here are the Goth's from 1851.
Forename(s) Surname Age Sort Birthplace Living In Piece No Folio No Comments Page Order Alpha Order
Hephzibah Goth 57 57.00 Sheffield Beverley Town HO107/2359 0417r 45085 84226
James Goth 71 71.00 Beverley Beverley Town HO107/2359 0417r 45086 84227
No, Huns, vandals or visigoths though!!
Wobbly
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Hi,
are you interested in the 1851 census?
I hope to be visiting Sedbergh soon and if so could have a look in the family history society for you.
Shelagh2
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I've looked through the 1851, 1861 census for Sedbergh and the births in the town. I can't see any reference to the name Goth.
I'll have another look to make sure the Methodist births aren't recorded separately.
Was he born in the town of Sedbergh, or is there any other village / area ?
Shelagh2
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Thanks for your help. I remember a reference made to Dent in Yorkshire on some of the documents, not sure if he was born there. There is also a possibility that the name was transcribed incorrectly.
regards
laurap120
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I remember seeing the name Goth on the Dent census records whilst I was looking through for someone else, I think they were farmers and presumably a local family. This didn't seem to fit in with your family - as you said the father was a methodist minister and moved around.
I'll have a look through the Dent 1851 census for you when I get up there again.
Shelagh2
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Thanks for this. He wasn't always a Methodist Minister, a lot of the family were farmers from Yorkshire / Lancashire so it could be them.
Thanks again
laurap120 :) :)
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Hi,
these are the Goth's in the 1851 census - see what you think
Dent Town
John Greenbank Goth, Head, 46, farm labourer born Dent
Agness, Wife aged 50 born Dent
Agness, Daughter aged 25 born Dent
Thomas Grandson aged 1 born Dent
Dent Town
Ellen Goth, House Servant aged 10, born Dent, living with Alice ?ayne (can't read first letter)
Southlords land
Millbeck
John Goth Head aged 24 farmer of 40? acres born Dent
Betty Goth, sister aged 21 House servant, born Dent
Robert Goth, brother aged 16, calico weaver born Dent
Dorothy Goth, sister aged 14, general house servant born Dent
Southlords land
Haycot
William Goth Head aged 68, farmer of 65 acres, born Dent
Agness wife aged 68 Farmers wife,born Dent
Richard, son, aged 30, Farmers son,born Dent
Alice, daughter, aged 27, farmers daughter , born Dent
Henry, son aged 24, farmers son. born Dent
Leonard son aged 20, farmers son, born Dent
Agnes G? Harper, grand daughter, aged 14, general house servant, born Dent
Let me know if you think these help you as I've made notes form the 1861 census as well.
I can also look further for you in the parish records for births, marriages etc if any of these are of interest.
Do you have the names of your Thomas Goth's parents? - it may help if I look again.
Regards
Shelagh
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Thanks for this. I don't recognise any names here but Goth isn't that popular so I have a feeling they will be connected somewhere. Unfortunately I don't have the names of Thomas' parents, but the 1861 census might be useful too.
Regards
laurap120 :) :)
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These are the Goth's on the 1861 census for Dent
the details below in forname order and show forname, age, and house address or area of Dent
Agnes 79 Haycote
Agnes 60 Main Street Farmhouse
Dorothy 3 Mill Beck
Elizabeth 33 East Banks
Elizabeth 25 Mill Beck
Faucett? 1 Mill Beck
Henry 32 Haycote
Isabella 1 East Banks
James 48 Rawbanks
John 30 East banks
John 3 East banks
John 34 Mill Beck
John G 56 Main Street Farmhouse
Leonard 27 Dent Town
Richard 57 Dent Town
Richard 38 Haycote
Richard 5 Mill beck
Thomas 44 Haycote
Thomas 11 Main Street Farmhouse
William 79 Haycote
William 46 Haycote
As your looking for Thomas born 1849 in Sedbergh the detail for him and his address is:-
John G Goth Head, married, aged 56, Farmer of 7 acres and sexton, born Dent
Agnes, wife aged 60, born Dent
Thomas, grandson aged 11 scholar aged 11
on the 1871 census I found:-
John G Goth aged 66 farmer of 16 acres
Annas wife aged 70 (this could be a misreading of Agnes)
Thomas, grandson, unmarried aged 21, labourer
Thomas is not on the 1881 census in Dent, looking on the 1881 census it may be him in Ashton Under Lyne. Not a suprise he left as many people had to, to find work.
Please also note that Sedbergh includes Dent if you look on freebmd. - they show only one Thomas Goth born 1849. If you think this is the right person and order the certificate it will tell you who his parents were.
If you don't mind me asking - what information do you have that his father was a methodist minister - it may just help whilst I'm looking through documents
Hope this helps, let me know if you want any of the census records copying and sending to you or if you want more detail for any of the Goth's.
Shelagh2
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Thanks for the info. Some of the names look familiar on this list. I was told that someone related was a methodist minister but I am not sure who. It's possible that it's just some old family myth!
Thanks for the info on Thomas' parents it's really useful. It's been difficult to get hold of as apparently they moved around quite a lot.
Many thanks
laurap120 :) :)
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Hi,
there's certainly a link to the Methodists - if you look at the web site below and follow it through England then Lancashire then Dent and search on surname Goth you will see some of the Goth's birth's are recorded as Methodist.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm#PageTitle.htm
let me know if you want anything more looking up as I'll be going back to Sedbergh in a few weeks.
Shelagh